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So I have come across ten acres on the edge of a small town in the ozarks with a lot of permaculture potential. I am short on the money needed by about one third of the asking price. The seller will not do a land contract. The land is bordered by a small town, has a creek going through it, an old well somewhere on the ten acres, the other boundary is a road and a cliff. The county and town have no restrictions so we can build at our own pace and have whatever animals we can acclimate the habitat to suit. There is a food pantry in the town and a small 'corner store' type grocery store; so there is a potential of having an in town produce and egg booth or even eventually a store front. I am looking for someone who could invest in the purchase price and be paid back as the land turns a profit; either someone who just wants to help out financially or someone who wants to participate in the permaculture plan physically and work out an arrangement for me to pay them back. I have asked various friends for help but not many people I know in real live are into permaculture and those that are are not in a financial position to invest. Suggestions for making this work before someone else gets this land?
 
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Have you talked to any small.local banks/credit unions. If you are only short by 1/3 they may well work with you. Typically for property they don't see as a potential residence they require you to have 20% down.
If you don't want to work with those types of institutions I totally understand. You might try searching around for terms like sustainable lender or look into the regional slow food group
 
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I guess having raw land to work and learn on doesn't appeal to many people here unless it's a pre existing profitable farm already. I wish I could find a set of hands to help out with this place even if I can get them talked into a land contract. I have been going over terms for a potential land contract where I don't take possession of the title and land till it's paid in full. I am however a bit leery of doing this and having it be legal so I don't loose out on any money and labor I put into the place. Oh well maybe I will get lucky and get the funds to do a purchase for the deed/title.
 
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Hi Gail, where is the property located, what are your plans and needs once getting the property, and if you'd like to PM me about what you need to move forward and discuss a possible agreement to get you there.
 
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Hi Gail, what county is it in? SW Missouri has some great counties for unrestricted buildings, but also near Springfield can be pretty restrictive, especially Christian County. I wish you luck, and think that with time you can find some great people here that would have interest. Most permies I have met are not afraid of raw land... lol :)

My dream is to move to SW MO, but probably in 1-2 years, and even if starting with an RV or she’d conversion, to build a wofati for a retirement home. My twins are almost 8 now and I want to get them out of the city ASAP... we already homeschool as we don’t agree with much of the PC stuff they teach these days and we’ve seen how much they dumb classes down to the lowest common denominator. First, we gotta fix up some things around this nice house we have in Kansas City, and sell it to hopefully have the money to get started on some land. Now that I have a CDL, I have the freedom to move out further from any cities. ;-)

Anyways, keep us updated as to you finding folks, or even if you go with a different property. I’m hoping to get to know/better more folks around SW MO.

Leif :)
 
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R Hill wrote:Hi Gail, where is the property located, what are your plans and needs once getting the property, and if you'd like to PM me about what you need to move forward and discuss a possible agreement to get you there.


Unfortunately this property was already sold. I am still looking for an ideal parcel around here to homestead on someday!
 
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Leif Ing wrote:Hi Gail, what county is it in? SW Missouri has some great counties for unrestricted buildings, but also near Springfield can be pretty restrictive, especially Christian County. I wish you luck, and think that with time you can find some great people here that would have interest. Most permies I have met are not afraid of raw land... lol :)

My dream is to move to SW MO, but probably in 1-2 years, and even if starting with an RV or she’d conversion, to build a wofati for a retirement home. My twins are almost 8 now and I want to get them out of the city ASAP... we already homeschool as we don’t agree with much of the PC stuff they teach these days and we’ve seen how much they dumb classes down to the lowest common denominator. First, we gotta fix up some things around this nice house we have in Kansas City, and sell it to hopefully have the money to get started on some land. Now that I have a CDL, I have the freedom to move out further from any cities. ;-)

Anyways, keep us updated as to you finding folks, or even if you go with a different property. I’m hoping to get to know/better more folks around SW MO.

Leif :)


This piece of land sold already. Right now I'm in the process of trying to buy a house with a home loan. I still plan on buying land to homestead on around here, if I can find one with no restrictions again! I have a converted school bus that is like an RV and kind of feel like it gave me the experience to tackle a cabin in the future. If you homeschool and have a CDL do you kids go with you on the road?
 
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Gail Jardin wrote:
This piece of land sold already. Right now I'm in the process of trying to buy a house with a home loan. I still plan on buying land to homestead on around here, if I can find one with no restrictions again! I have a converted school bus that is like an RV and kind of feel like it gave me the experience to tackle a cabin in the future. If you homeschool and have a CDL do you kids go with you on the road?



Well, I’m new to trucking, only 6 months in... and no, my twins are almost 8 and the company (like most trucking companies?) won’t let them ride until they are at least 12. *sigh* For now, it’s a sacrifice we need to make. After I hit 1 or 2 years driving I’ll have many more options for employers and plan to try and find one that will let my kids ride with me, one at a time. Barring that, my next option is one that is more flexible on working times... one I found will let me choose a schedule, like 4 days on/gone, 4 days home, and it sounds like they pay better especially after you have 2 years driving OTR and accident free...

For now, trying to figure out the best ways to encourage my kids to learn to enjoy learning, encourage experiences and a love of being outdoors, and trying to pay down bills and need to fix some things on our house to ensure we can sell for a good price and quickly, like new driveway, kitchen remodel, interior painting, landscaping... those are the big things. One at a time :)

We like watching Justin Rhodes on YouTube, and I read as much as I can on various topics, like permaculture, U-houses and wofatis, alternative building methods, working with different trees and animals. I hope to build a retirement place and something to leave my kids, along with instilling a love for it and country life and freedom in them. My wife is finally more on board and willing to consider options other than city life, as she sees the benefits to the kids, lower taxes, etc. so I DO want to stay at least reasonably close to a town/city for her to be able to go work there and for ease of shopping as needed, maybe within 15-30 minutes.

So, I’ve had the chance to meet several on here at the first PEP1 event, and have talked over the last 2+ years with several others, but would like to meet more and find how we can build even loose community and friendships especially with other permies and permie-friendly folks around the KC to SW Missouri/Ozarks area. My wife, Lily, agrees that she wants a ‘small’ house, less area to build and care for, more encouragement for everyone to go/be outside. Would love to see your bus conversion, have never really seen one except online. Not scared to work hard for our goals! :)

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Gail, wondering if you ever found some land? We actually escaped the big city, but moved to NW Missouri instead of SW. Love the community we landed in, mostly conventional folks, but also many Amish around and a couple permie/regenerative ag/alternate idea friendly folks around. (Harrison County) still driving a truck, hopefully can quit that in the next 2-3 years and have most everything paid off.

I keep hoping more permie types will move up this way soon, but in the meantime I’ve been working on sharing ideas like KNF and am building a bell style RMH in our new house in about two weeks. Several Amish are quite interested in seeing how well that works!

I hope you found what you seek or are continuing your quest and not giving up. Leif
 
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Hey I'm interested I have money but I want to own some of my own lands I don't mind moving to the Ozarks just let me know what we can work out if you're interested
 
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