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Hey guys,

So I have been reading up on cob and am trying to find an easy way to source clay and sand, and lime. The straw I know several places.
I know they keep saying you can source it on your land, but I have been moving around every year or so and dont know where particularly I am going to end up building this thing. So I dont know if I will have good clay content. I also feel like manually digging up tons of clay is a lot of work, to possibly not even have the right kind. (Not to mention the ugly giant holes I would have all over my property and currently not even knowing how large my property will be) IS there a right kind of clay? I know it has to be a certain percentage to sand, but can I not just, say, go to lowes and get some packs of AMACO air dry clay and call it good? I would prefer being able to just go out and buy in bulk assuming its cheaper that traditonal carpentry methods...

What about sand? Companies also sell bulk masonry sand which I am assuming would be the appropriate kind. I DO know I wont end up near a beach so I couldn't source locally. I was planning on making a house 576 sq ft. Is there any way to tell how much cob I would need (in pounds) for the inside/outside of the walls?

For those answering, thank you for your wisdom!
 
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I don't really have a perfect answer, and I'm no expert. But my understanding is that it's more usual for soils to have clay than not, especially at the subsoil level. The exception could be old river beds and glacial areas - they're more sand and silt. Chances are you'd need to buy in sand rather than clay, and sand is available at anywhere that sells building stuff. I don't know that beach sand is good for building anyway as it could be worn too smooth. You need sharp sand for building.

The topsoil, the good dark stuff that's great for growing plants, has too much organic material and silt in it to be good for building. So you scrape that off and set that aside for growing plants after the building is done. The subsoil is what you use for building.

Depending how thick your walls are, how many doors and windows you want to include, and how deep you need to make foundations where you build, it's possible that you may get enough clay-content soil from digging out for the foundations. Or you may need to dig a nice hole that could later become a pond.  You're unlikely to need to dig lots of huge holes, as you'll be adding plenty of straw and sand to your subsoil which will bulk it up quite a lot, and doors and windows will reduce the volume of cob, as well.  Cob is very forgiving, the mix doesn't have to be exactly right.

But my feeling is that when thinking about building, rather than planning what we'll build, we need to wait and see what the land tells us should be built. Each place will have some building materials more available than others, each climate will have building styles that are better suited.  If you know you really want to build in cob, then seek out areas that have other cob builders already there. That tells you the soil and climate are suitable.
 
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I do have a deep knowledge of the subject matter.
BUT, you need to read and research a lot more and some of those answers will come to you.
Its important to understand what you are dealing with, and then have an idea of where you will be applying the knowledge first.
Then find some land.
Then suppliers will pop up everywhere.
 
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Our half acre property has a really expansive clay so I typically buy sandy loam from our local landscaping supplier by the yard($25-30 per yard) for my cob projects. Feed stores will sell straw. If you have a big project I suggest checking out craigslist to get a better deal($9 per bale from feed store versus $5-$7 per pale on Craigslist). Lime can purchased at any of the big box home improvement stores ($12.67 per 50 lb bag).

For finish plaster I buy masonry sand by the yard from the landscape supplier($50 per yard) and clay by the 50 lb bag from an art supplier ($15-$25 per bag).

If you have the magic mix of sand and clay on the property you end up on you'll have to figure out how much gathering you materials onsite are worth. A 576 sqft (24 ft x 24 ft with 8 foot high 18" thick wall) cob house would take ~60 yards of dirt. You'll probably rent a excavator to dig out the foundation. While you have it rented you can excavate pond and use the spoils to build your house.

As John and Jane mentioned so much of the planning is location dependent.



 
 
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