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I am normally a live and let grow kind of gal...but. The electric company came through and butchered the easement on our property and the Japanese climbing fern that was not really an issue is now trying to take over! We had it almost gone by hand pulling, but there is way too much of it now for that to be practical. If it were kudzu or bindweed I'd know how to use it and that would keep it under control. It's too flimsy for cordage or basketry and critters don't seem to want to eat it and it doesn't seem to be an accumulator or soil stabilizer or good for anything really. If I could find any info on what niche this weed was inhabiting I would plant a more desirable competitor or alter the soil to make it unfriendly.  But we have several climbers already and they aren't helping. We eventually want to reintroduce fire to our long leaf stands, but as the property hasn't been tended for over 100 years we will have to remove a lot of undergrowth and vines by hand first or we will cause more harm than good. Google is silent on the matter except to say poison it.  And of course I don't do poison.
Does anyone know of a way to use this vine? Does anyone know what this vine might be trying to tell me about my soil? Any help or ideas would be deeply appreciated!
 
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Lygodium japonicum is what I'm guessing you mean by Japanese climbing fern. (Hai Jin Sha) 桷金沙

There is one species of Lygodium that is native to North America. L. palmatum is a temperate species recorded from Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia northeast through New England. This could be a starting point. I've had very limited experience with L. japonicum, but some friends have land which have patches. From my understanding the plants like wet feet. Prefers a neutral to slightly acid soil, spread during wet seasons.

My first approach would be see if I could pull the moisture away from the area. I don't know the rules of your easement, but I might look into way of change the water flow as it is currently. I would then try to ge t my hands on some L. palmatum. Plant it since it's a native and might complete. Another approach I might try to blackberries. I've personally seem blackberries out complete some pretty amazing plants. ( Like Multiflora Rose) Another tactics I would try would be bunny tractors. Cut the plant down, and then let the bunnies dig and chew on the stems and roots. Then move to the next stop since they are mobile it should effect the easement.

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After some reading through some old science literature Rust (fungus) {Puccinia lygodii } has been know to restrict the growth.  (Jones, 1987)

The value I've found.

The spores of this plant seem to have a good value in the natural medicine market.

And I also came across this idea. The extensive, fibrous root system can be used as a growing medium for plants


Here is a start. Keep me updated I would like to know what you end up doing and what works and doesn't work.

Cheers

-Justyn
 
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