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Dennis Bangham wrote:Jujube. No problems with insects or disease.
Mine produced fruit the second year.
Taste like the sweetest little apples you ever ate.
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Mike Schroer wrote:Pears seem like the least trouble and thrive the best, unfortunately not my favorite fruit.
Asian pears seem to be less prone to problems.
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wayne fajkus wrote:Pears is a good one based on my experience. My original trees went through a terror for 2 years. Deer girdling them, 6 weeks of standing water, several months of hi temperature drought. The pear survived where others didn't.
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Woody McInish wrote:Nikita's Gift persimmon (American x Oriental). No bug, disease, or animal problems. Fruit the 4th year. Delicious, nutritious, no care.
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Steve Thorn wrote:
Woody McInish wrote:Nikita's Gift persimmon (American x Oriental). No bug, disease, or animal problems. Fruit the 4th year. Delicious, nutritious, no care.
That's awesome!
How would you describe the flavor? I tried one from the grocery store, and it didn't have much taste, but I figured they probably picked it very unripe to ship it.
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Woody McInish wrote:I'm sure the one you tried was an Oriental and not a NG cross. The NG is sweet and crispy early ripening to very sweet, juicy, and soft later.
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Paul Lutz wrote:Asian Pears. (Eastern Pennsylvania) zero issues every year even when I lose everything else (apples, peaches, plums, appricot, cherry, other pears). Japanese beetles don't touch them.
Persimmon is my next in line but smaller yields of smaller fruit (and I lost the entire crop last year).
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Ken W Wilson wrote:My Nikita’s Gifts are too mushy and too sweet. Before they are mushy, they always are at least a little bitter. I pick them just before they soften and dehydrate them. That takes the bitterness out. Add nuts for great trail mix. They are pretty carefree trees. Tiny seeds and huge fruits. They ripen in late October or even November here. That’s great because it’s not a very busy time for me. I have had some fall web worms. I much prefer the taste of American persimmons.
Montmorency Cherry has been my most reliable and carefree tree. Over about ten years I had one year the codling moths ruined them. Other years varied but were pretty productive.
Fireblight wiped out my pears.
I know you asked about trees, but thornless blackberries are extremely productive and need very little care. Also they can produce a good crop in the second year, and you can plant them between your trees. They like some shade here.
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Nathan Watson wrote:Sour cherry is a very tough tree. No pests, needs very little water or none at all depending on climate, grows fast. You can eat them raw off the tree but most people prefer baking with them...they are a bit on the tart side.
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Hester Winterbourne wrote:Crataegus schraderiana. Mine is grafted and is about 7 or 8 foot tall, and bears kilos of big deep red berries that the birds show no interest in, and that make dark pink appley-tasting jam that sets well. Not much fun to eat raw because of the skin and pips (which I sieve off to make the jam), but in terms of easy it's fab. Nice thick blossom in May, attractive cut silvery leaves. Difficult to get to germinate (I'm still trying!)
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Jondo Almondo wrote:Guava grows wild in my area, it litters the roadsides. [Makes good wine]
The next easiest in my climate is the Brazilian Cherry - its super-tart flavor can blow your head off, but you get used to it and its highly concentrated vitamin C.
Often used as a hedge, fruit are thin-skinned and prone to pest damage, but prolific enough for all the wildlife to share with some left over.
[And makes good wine]
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Marty Mitchell wrote:The big ones in my area (Virginia 7b/8a)... the ones I see in 1 out of say 8 homes here in the suburbs... that are completely neglected and still produce are...
Figs
Just let them grow in their natural form in full Sun and they will be either a medium to large bush depending on type. They make 2 crops a year too!
The other big one would be mulberries. The black varieties have the most flavor. Just be sure to keep them away from where cars will be. Well actually, birds love them too. So a little further away than that. Dwarf everbearing seems like a good one to plant under a field of say pecan trees or some other large nut bearing tree. The berries will bring in the poop/fertilizer. Mulberries are immune to the juglone that black walnuts and their ilk produce.
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Bryant RedHawk wrote:I'd go with fig trees, easy to grow and easy to propagate, fruit ripening all summer long too.
Of all of our fruit trees (plum, pear, peach, fig, apple) the ones that I seem to have to fuss over are the apple trees.
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Steve Thorn wrote:
Marty Mitchell wrote:The big ones in my area (Virginia 7b/8a)... the ones I see in 1 out of say 8 homes here in the suburbs... that are completely neglected and still produce are...
Figs
Just let them grow in their natural form in full Sun and they will be either a medium to large bush depending on type. They make 2 crops a year too!
The other big one would be mulberries. The black varieties have the most flavor. Just be sure to keep them away from where cars will be. Well actually, birds love them too. So a little further away than that. Dwarf everbearing seems like a good one to plant under a field of say pecan trees or some other large nut bearing tree. The berries will bring in the poop/fertilizer. Mulberries are immune to the juglone that black walnuts and their ilk produce.
Great information Marty!
I think we may be in very similar climates. I've heard figs grow like weeds here too. I haven't planted any yet but hope to soon!
I've planted a few varieties of mulberries and am super excited to hopefully taste them soon!
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Steve Thorn wrote:What would you recommend to a brand new gardener as the easiest fruit tree to grow? This may differ greatly based on climate, temperature, and location, but should give great insight for people living nearby what could be a good fruit tree to start with!
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Tim Kivi wrote:Figs and mulberries have very invasive roots that can destroy plumbing and even house foundations. That’s actually why I planted them in two trouble spots of my yard where large established trees won’t let other trees survive. The apple, pomegranate and citrus trees that I previously planted in the same area either died or didn’t grow at all. In half a year i’ll k ow if these dare any better.
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F Agricola wrote:
Steve Thorn wrote:What would you recommend to a brand new gardener as the easiest fruit tree to grow? This may differ greatly based on climate, temperature, and location, but should give great insight for people living nearby what could be a good fruit tree to start with!
A lemon tree - potted or not.
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Marty Mitchell wrote:I am just finishing up moving down to NC! About an hour south of Virginia Beach, VA in zone 8a allegedly.
That being said I have a 1acre property that is mostly empty(MUD hole!).
I already ordered some "Violette de Bourdoux", "Negronne", and "LSU purple" figs... along with "Dwarf Everbearing", "Shangri La", and "Illinois Everbearing" Mulberries . Those are going into the yard soon (Depending on size I may pot till next Spring). My mission fig is going into the ground too. I did a lot of research and some other types of figs that should be great for our temps, humidity, and precipitation are "Smith", "Panache", and many many more! Figs can range in flavor profiles from sugar, to honey, to strawberry jam, etc.
Most sold in the stores are for shelf life and not flavor. To get flavor pick varieties that have them and then actually pick when they are fully ripe/melt in your mouth good.
What area do you live in? I will now be in Elizabeth City.
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Steve Thorn wrote:
Marty Mitchell wrote:I am just finishing up moving down to NC! About an hour south of Virginia Beach, VA in zone 8a allegedly.
That being said I have a 1acre property that is mostly empty(MUD hole!).
I already ordered some "Violette de Bourdoux", "Negronne", and "LSU purple" figs... along with "Dwarf Everbearing", "Shangri La", and "Illinois Everbearing" Mulberries . Those are going into the yard soon (Depending on size I may pot till next Spring). My mission fig is going into the ground too. I did a lot of research and some other types of figs that should be great for our temps, humidity, and precipitation are "Smith", "Panache", and many many more! Figs can range in flavor profiles from sugar, to honey, to strawberry jam, etc.
Most sold in the stores are for shelf life and not flavor. To get flavor pick varieties that have them and then actually pick when they are fully ripe/melt in your mouth good.
What area do you live in? I will now be in Elizabeth City.
That's neat Marty! I've been up that way a few times. It seems like a nice area from what I've seen.
I've got a few of those varieties growing actually, I'll have to look into the others, very neat! I'm about two hours southwest of you out in the country, so I bet our climates are pretty similar.
I've never had a freshly picked fig, looking forward to trying one soon hopefully!
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Marty Mitchell wrote:Maybe some day several years from now we can meet and make a scion trade with each other for varieties that are doing best for us.
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Tim Kivi wrote:Figs and mulberries have very invasive roots that can destroy plumbing and even house foundations. That’s actually why I planted them in two trouble spots of my yard where large established trees won’t let other trees survive. The apple, pomegranate and citrus trees that I previously planted in the same area either died or didn’t grow at all. In half a year i’ll know if these dare any better.
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F Agricola wrote:
Steve Thorn wrote:What would you recommend to a brand new gardener as the easiest fruit tree to grow? This may differ greatly based on climate, temperature, and location, but should give great insight for people living nearby what could be a good fruit tree to start with!
A lemon tree - potted or not.
Frankly, if people fail in growing one, better to give up Gardening, concrete the entire backyard and paint it green!
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Priscilla Stilwell wrote: Suggestions for what else I might grow in this tricky spot? Haiti. Rain shadow. Sometimes turns into a lake when it does rain. Mostly deforested and bare. Lots of goats (I stake every tree and wrap wire fence around it). Poor clay soil.
I have a fig cutting I'm trying to root. I'm trying to find the balance of keeping my half-bottle-greenhouse on for humidity, and taking it off to avoid mold. Probably not the best weather right now, but this is when it was given to me.
The comments on the invasive mulberry roots has me a little concerned too. I planted it across an access point for the water truck away from the house, but I'm wondering if it's going to venture over to the plumbing which is on that side. Solutions? How far from pipes should it be?
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