Brice Moss wrote:
the thing with botulism is it can survive for a while at normal boiling temps and if it is all alone in a food source it grows until it poisons the food killing itself (Botulism toxin)
"Can botulism grow in a sealed jar?"
Yes. Besides being able to survive boiling temperatures, the other thing that makes botulism such a concern is that it grows best in an anaerobic or very slightly oxygenated environment -- as in a canning jar. There are not a lot of botulism cases caused by food any more because people are very careful. However, a Google search for "CDC botulism cases 2011" turned up cases as recently as last July in poorly stored commercial potato soup.
It can turn up in unexpected places, also. Apparently there is a current outbreak in Seattle, related to unrefined heroin. I know that back in the late 1990's, there was an epidemic of horses dying suddenly in Iceland. People suspected some kind of deranged criminal, until it was discovered that the waterproof vacuum-enhanced shrink bales that they were using for
hay promoted the growth of botulism, especially if an unfortunate
mouse happened to get baled with the hay. People were advised to cut slits in the bale wrappers to let in oxygen, and the epidemic stopped.