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Just purchased perennial Swedish clover, sweet clover and Italian biennial clovers by the pound and I'd like to start planting in large patches.   I also have sea oats to plant out.

I was considering just direct seeding into some areas of the lawn has anyone done this with success?

My guess is the oats will have to go in soil but this will be the smallest patch so not a big deal.


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It sounds like you have a good plan of attack, I would mix all but the sea oats and spread where you want them.
I have only seen sea oats growing in sandy dunes so I don't know how they will do in a real soil situation, but they are definitely worth trying, they are such a lovely plant.

My pastures now are a mix of around 18 different plant types and species and they all play nice together and the animals love the mix of choices.

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HI Bryant,

I got the sea oats from Johnny's seeds "northern sea oats Og."  Chasmanthium lafifolium.   When I bought them I didn't know that most Sea oats grow in sandy soil.  I guess the name should have given it away.  So you think direct sowing into sod/grass will work?   I wasn't sure if I should make trenches or break the ground up.

It would make my life so much easier if I could just, heavily, broadcast it.  I'm a huge fan of clover.  Early in the spring the white clover is one of the few food sources for the bumblebees.

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I would think that given the natural location of the sea oat family, you would need to loosen up the soil and make sure it drained well for them to grow at their best.
I think they will grow in soil, but they will need a soil that can drain water away from the plant crown at least fairly quickly.

If your soil is a sandy type, then you could probably just broadcast with no prep work at all.
 
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@Bryant  Thanks for the information.  Sounds like a plan.  I think I will plant the oats in one location and divide them next year.

Regards, Scott
 
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