r ranson wrote:Do you have access to a vet? Penicillin is pretty broad spectrum - it catches most things but misses others.
If you can get a vet to diagnose the specific reason why the eyes are infected - bacteria, viral, fungal, or environmental (antibiotics only works on one of those causes) - then you can target the drugs to the ailment and use fewer drugs.
If you don't have a vet - have a look for environmental triggers before using a drug they can develop a resistance to. I feel that there are times we need to use these powerful drugs to heal the animal, but I I also know we have some serious drug resistance in my area thanks to the overuse of these drugs - so much so that the government has made it impossible to access these life saving veterinary meds.
I know a neighbor of ours with sheep has eye infections as well. They were giving theirs penicillin and the same eye spray I was using.
Definitely don't want to eat meat with penicillin still in it. The bottle says the withdrawal time of it. We'll respect that for sure.
Jen Fan wrote:Another thought; sometimes eyes can goop up and get mucus-y from dietary intake. If a food is not agreeing with the body. I've observed this in both animals and myself. The most common reason I personally see eye goobers is crappy food intake. Second most common reason I used to see it, back when I was in agricultural/orchard country, was chemical spraying; mosquito spray, crop dusting, and also my neighbors liked to burn their plastic in a burn barrel. Me and all the animals would have gummy eyes and be coughing the next day when they burned. The goats would get gunky ears, too, and the chickens would have runny noses and be coughing. It was poisonous! Gr! Anyway. I suspect the "crappy food" factor is relative to the chemicals in/on the food; what's used to grow it, harvest it, process it, and preserve it, if applicable.
IMO, goopy eyes don't automatically = infection. Mucus is the body's way of wrapping a contaminant up in a safe package and expelling it from the body. Could be chemical, physical (seed, etc), bacterial, etc etc.
r ranson wrote:I'm very glad they are doing better.
Did you try a control group? Treating some with saline instead of the meds? I find when I do this for eye problems, my control group heals days earlier than the medicated one - that's even with targeted meds (aka, a full diagnosis and meds to treat the specific problem).
Something I see time and again in our area. Farmers treat with meds without a diagnosis. I've seen farmers treat for pinkeye when it's not pinkeye. Then they get pinkeye and their flock/herd has built up a resistance to the meds that there is no treatment. They end up having to cull a great number of animals due to drug resistance. In the end, the government got so fed up with this that they restricted access to almost all vetrinary drugs, supplements, pariacite control, everything! We can no longer access life-saving animal medication where I live.
This is why I'm such a strong advocate for getting a diagnosis before treating with strong drugs.
Travis Johnson wrote:
One thing to keep in mind about medications: even under Organic Standards, a farmer/homesteader IS REQUIRED to treat an animal with antibiotic if needed.
Doody calls. I would really rather that it didn't. Comfort me wise and sterile tiny ad:
Dave Burton's Boot Adventures at Wheaton Labs and Basecamphttps://permies.com/t/119676/permaculture-projects/Dave-Burton-Boot-Adventures-Wheaton