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Permaculture in 1 hour a day?

 
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Is it possible?

I have more time now because this month the university where I teach is on break, but working hours are limited somewhat by the heat of the day as well.

If you only have an hour a day, or 7 hours a week to develop your permaculture site, what are you going to use your time for?

Right now I'm alternating between digging my first Swale by hand, planting, fencing, shading, and trenching young trees, and chopping biomass that I'm putting into the trenches around the newly planted trees and into the garden beds. I also take a walk around and make sure the young trees look good.

Is this enough time to make real progress? How much time do you invest? What's the minimum daily or weekly time investment in your opinion?
 
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Of course it's possible!

I've barely scratched the surface in terms of learning about permaculture, but it seems to be about a lot more than digging holes and making mushroom slurries.  It's an approach to...everything.  

Do you count the time you spend on this site as part of your hour a day?  How about the time you spend thinking about things?  The time you spend (or save) by improving the ways in which you conduct your daily life?

Since I moved into my new house, I've switched from paper to cloth napkins - perfectly good cloth napkins that were destined for the landfill before I rescued them.  I ditched the paper towels (mostly) and use rags cut from old clothes.  I actually enjoy the folding and ironing (not that you really have to iron your napkins), and it's nice not to have to schlep home big packages of napkins and paper towels.  As another example, I was reading Paul's post on incandescent vs. LED lights, and in it he said, "if you really think picking out which light bulb to use will save you that much energy, there is a very good chance that exploring your lighting habits will save you far more energy (money) than trying LED."  That really resonated with me.  You'll take my LED bulbs when you pry them from my cold dead hands (sorry Paul), but I've since gotten a lot better about simply turning out the lights.

So I'd say stop worrying and enjoy your hour in the garden and the rest of the time you spend learning and changing.

 
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Permaculture is more of a mindset just like Elizabeth brought up.

When it comes to installing your garden spaces, swales, hugels, etc. I have found it best to do all the earth works for one area before you get down to planting and soil improvement.
This is because earth works take time, they can be of a type that destroys the soil microbiome, this means you want to finish the digging in one of your areas before you do anything else, and don't forget that water handling is probably the most important "do it first" items.

Many people start down the permaculture path with out a clear vision of the end results. This can lead to a scattered mass of different works going on in a disconnected manner which ends up causing more work and occasionally digging up and replanting items that were put in place ahead of their schedule.
That can lead to becoming discouraged quickly, and that is when a lot of folks simply revert to their older methods, be they permaculture type or commercial farming type of methods.

Since you are like Wolf and I (working full time and working on a solid permaculture homestead or farm) I would like to suggest you pick one space and start with the earthworks then plant and water then begin the building of the soil so it will support the life forms you planted there.

Jumping around a hunk of land, working in many different spaces, tends to lead to squirrel behavior, (jumping around willy-nilly and nothing seems to get completed), that will lead to exasperation and working all you can but never completing any single project.

I work on Buzzard's Roost for around 1 hour per day during the work week and then I work on as much as I can on the weekends, but I also make sure to make some weekend time for true relaxing (usually at the end of the day on sunday  and in the heat of the day on Saturday (soccer match).
I've also had to learn that I can no longer go-go-go like I could even two years ago. Now I go out and work hard for an hour then I have to come inside, not only to cool off but to let my body recover so I can go out several times per day.
By changing to this tactic I can still get lots done, just not as much as if I was 40 and didn't have health problems that drag the body down.

"The mind might still be 18 but the 68 year old body has far more mileage", so I go slower and try to work on one thing at a time, this only deviates when some "emergency" problem creates the situation of have to do this RFN so I can get back to the scheduled work ASAP.

I'm happy if I can walk into the house at the end of an hour and not be ready to collapse on the floor. Most days this is one hour at a time with a minimum of 30 minutes break between stints.
Currently I have to complete the up hillside ditch beside my driveway so it won't be washed out in another heavy rain event.
I thought I would get started on it this past weekend, no such luck, had to put up a portable shed for the lawn mowers, which once the frame was together, Wolf decided it needed to be placed at the back of the yard instead of her original close to the house shed site.
Because of that decision I had to remove two trees that I had not taken down yet because of Wolf liking the trees (even though they were shading out our plum trees).
Now the trees are down, cut up and outside of the fenced yard, the frame still has to be carried to the new site and the covers put in place. Maybe this week will see this job completed in my one hour a night stints of farm work.

Don't let your self get discouraged, pick one project and work on it to completion, then go to the next. That is how we get things done without having to re-do them because we didn't do things in the right order.

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Spend a lot of that time planning and designing. Create in this order:

1. Water (earthworks, etc)
2. Access (roads, paths)
3. Structures (garden beds, animal pens, etc)

Work from the house outward.  If time and space are limited, concentrate on Zone 1, the most intensive area right around the house.

I would have saved years of time if I could have grasped these concepts early on.

 
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Great advice!

I have a small enclosed garden right at the front of the house that has been going since late last year. That is where I'm working on improving the soil. It's been an ongoing project and will continue to be ongoing, but it's pretty self-sufficient right now, with minimal work.

The trees were, in my opinion, necessary. For one, they we're donated, and need to get planted. For two, in order to get the university and students on board, I need to show progress, and fruit trees are something they comprehend well. Plus, we need shade.

But now that the rainy season is coming, the swale has become priority. I basically go out after it rains and study the water flow to see how best to redesign it. It's not a huge swale (or I wouldn't be digging it by hand). Maybe 50 feet long by 3-4 feet wide, and currently about a foot deep. By doing a bit each day, I see progress. It should be mostly finished this week, then I'll plant some trees and whatnot on it and mulch so that when the students get back from break, they can see the progress and better understand the effect and purpose.

So it's all connected and I have a very clear focus in my mind. I just have to work as I can. I don't always have access to organic material to add to the front garden, so then I work on other things.
 
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What everyone else said. I work full time and with kids I barely get to put any time into my stuffs. Things take LONGER but things happen. I did giant earthworks to start and now I've reduced myself back to trying to get a good orchard and garden going.
 
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elle sagenev wrote:What everyone else said. I work full time and with kids I barely get to put any time into my stuffs. Things take LONGER but things happen. I did giant earthworks to start and now I've reduced myself back to trying to get a good orchard and garden going.



As a full time professor and a full time doctoral student, I absolutely understand. That's why I try to focus my time during breaks (like this month) to establish things so when I don't have time, they can just keep going. Right now, I have all day I could be working. But when class is in session, I'm lucky to get in 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the evening.
 
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