another of the second plant had drying berries that looked like blueberries. when i opened some up they had seeds too big for blueberries though. ive never seen huckleberries but i wonder if this is them? they are working in spaces amidst the japanese barberry, im trying to figure out what to clear and what to keep.
sorry I don't recognize either..the compound leaves are similar to a walnut, but I'm fairly sure that isn't what they are. As for the berries, similar to blueberries, I couldn't tell you on that either as they don't appear to be in the blueberry family..leafwise.
Bloom where you are planted.
If the first plant has tiny pink flowers on the tips of the branches and latex sap when you break the stem it is a Spreading Dogbane, which is very pretty but poisonous, but has very few pests except that porcupines like to eat the flower buds. Bees love it and it has a very nice scent.
The second one is probably a honeyberry (haskap) a member of the honeysuckle family.
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if I get a chance, I'll try to post a picture of some of my Vacciniums for you to compare. in the mean time, pictures of highbush blueberry (V. corymbosum) foliage and red huckleberry (V. parvifolium) foliage:
honeyberry leaves are pubescent (fuzzy), which the plant in question does not appear to be.
thank yall for the input! one of the plants does appear to be dogbane. i was under the impression the other one was more japanese barberry in the winter. i really appreciate the help everybody, be well
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