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plant identification, 2 plants northeastern pennsylvania

 
frank larue
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we have two plants here:

first (sorry, i dont know how to upload photos via url, im gonna go teach myself)
http://ge.tt/3DFUAZK


second:

http://ge.tt/48fqAZK

another of the second plant had drying berries that looked like blueberries. when i opened some up they had seeds too big for blueberries though. ive never seen huckleberries but i wonder if this is them? they are working in spaces amidst the japanese barberry, im trying to figure out what to clear and what to keep.


thanks
 
Brenda Groth
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sorry I don't recognize either..the compound leaves are similar to a walnut, but I'm fairly sure that isn't what they are. As for the berries, similar to blueberries, I couldn't tell you on that either as they don't appear to be in the blueberry family..leafwise.
 
Leron Bouma
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Your first plant looks to me to be some type of sumac (genus Rhus). There are several species common to Pennsylvania.
 
tel jetson
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that second one looks like a Vaccinium to me. most likely a wild blueberry or huckleberry.
 
Kota Dubois
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If the first plant has tiny pink flowers on the tips of the branches and latex sap when you break the stem it is a Spreading Dogbane, which is very pretty but poisonous, but has very few pests except that porcupines like to eat the flower buds. Bees love it and it has a very nice scent.

The second one is probably a honeyberry (haskap) a member of the honeysuckle family.
 
tel jetson
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if I get a chance, I'll try to post a picture of some of my Vacciniums for you to compare. in the mean time, pictures of highbush blueberry (V. corymbosum) foliage and red huckleberry (V. parvifolium) foliage:







honeyberry leaves are pubescent (fuzzy), which the plant in question does not appear to be.
 
John Wright
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i second that... looks like dogbane.. the latex is the ringer
 
frank larue
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thank yall for the input! one of the plants does appear to be dogbane. i was under the impression the other one was more japanese barberry in the winter. i really appreciate the help everybody, be well
 
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