trees ideas for a 5 Hectare forest/Arboretum?

I am starting a small 5 Hectare forest/Arboretum on my farm, it is going to take quite awhile to plant out and a lot longer for them to grow but I think it will be worth it. I hate Australian Native Gum Trees as they can be very counterproductive, so I will be planting a lot of useful deciduous tree as well as a few evergreen trees such as Tagasaste. I will be planting fruit trees in the forest that will be just for the wildlife to eat. Here is a short list of the trees I will be planting out and if you have any favourite kind of tree that you think I have missed please let me know and I will add them to the list:

Oak, Elm, Ash, Beech, Silver Birch, Japanese Maple, Horse Chestnut, Poplars, Weeping Willows, Fig, Hazel, Walnut, Magnolia, Moringa, Tagasaste, Date Palm, Sequoiadendron Giganteum, Peppercorn.

Nickolas,

Wouldn't it be more productive to decide first what you want to do with the property before which trees? If you're putting together an arboretum for visitors you may want to feature trees with stories, where if producing a forest you may want to consider income streams against timeframe.

It might also matter your climate and elevations. Would be so sad for you to take all that time to plant, only to discover you don't have the resources (or desire) to maintain. Just a thought.

Best,

Justin

I have 30 acres all up and I only need 10-15 acres tops for my Permaculture project, so I have a lot of empty space to one side of the property.
It is mainly going to be fore wildlife but having said that I hope to be self sufficient for autumn leaves by 2030, 95% of which will be coming out of my forest. I will spend a fair bit of time in their playing the flute and also relaxing in summer.
I won’t ever need it as a wood resource because I back onto a Eucalyptus forest and I am allowed to collect firewood within 100 meters of my fence line. And I wont need it as a food resource as all the people and animal food crops will be on the other side of the block. Not all of the trees are going to be in the 12 acre forest, I am going to have 20 Persian Oaks down the driveway and I am shore that I will always try and fit a deciduous tree in were ever the will fit because other that firewood I really hate Eucalyptus trees.
I am a fairly young man, which means I will be abele to see my forest reach 80 years old before I turn 100.

Nickolas,

Sounds like you can just start planting what ever you can get your hands on then. I'm a bit perplexed by your harvest of autumn leaves, permaculture tends to output in categories of food, wood, and water.

Since you "will spend a fair bit of time in their playing the flute and also relaxing in summer" it might be interesting to plant edible bushes in beds along a winding trail. May even want a few hidden groves or nooks where you can relax like Pan.

Personally if I'm going to spend all that time planting I'd like to have multiple outputs with more universal value -- but it sounds like you have that covered in other areas. Have fun.

Best,

Justin

I am not strictly permaculture, I am an taking steps towards being an organic market gardener and I make all my soil using rased beds, in these rased beds I use a lot of what I call carbon mix, carbon mix is made up of 4 parts autumn leaves (hence the need for Autumn leaves), 3 parts shredded cardboard, 3 parts straw, 2 parts sawdust, 1 part powdered charcoal.

Everything edible that I plant in the forest is going to be for the wildlife, so they will have lots food of their own to eat that is easily available to them so they wont try and eat the harder to get fruit from my orchard and anything else that I use that they find edible.

Here is a few dozen nut, fruit and vines that you can add
http://www.onegreenworld.com//index.php?cPath=1