My wife and I are looking for collaborators in a self sustainableproject! We live in N Calif now and are looking to move to Washington State, Oregon, or even Hawaii and pursue a "complete lifestyle change". We are in our late thirties and are educated and successful in our current careers, but are ready for a new path. I grew up on our families farms in the Midwest, so I'm no stranger to the reality of farming or the work involved! However, what we're envisioning is much more then just a IC that focuses on its own "survival", we want to be part of and partner with like minded people, who are ambitiously and unapologetically striving to create a "working model" for the future, of how sustainable, energy-neutral agriculture and its related businesses can be profitable and innovative, while at the same time provide an alternative to the suburban, wasteful, inefficient, and debt ridden lifestyle most live in currently! I want to integrate recycling, refurbishing, invention, clean energy and fuel, permaculture, agriculture, and modern technology in way that embraces our modern world, but uses nothing but self sustainable practices to do it!
If this is something intriguing to you, please message me and let's start a dialogue!
I am very interested in partnering with people who are concerned with creating a sustainable community. I found this forum a couple of months ago and have been avidly reading ever since. Check out my post on the rockies forum under the topic "40 acres for 7500 bucks!in Southern Colorado" by Wyomiles Hogan. I gave a brief summary of my plans for begining a sustainable food forest farm. I have done a lot of research and planning and talked to several people. I would love to talk to you more about your ideas. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org looking forward to hearing from you both.
Just a thought, check out some of the CSA Community supposted agriculture farms in the areas you are looking, check out Localharvest.org
There are many up and down i5 corridor. There is also a couple looking for helpers/workers located in the columbia gorge, that have posted on here. In the last week or so.
Aloha! I live in the Vacaville area in North Cali. I'm ambitious and enthusiastic 22 yr old, living foodist and gardener of the earth! Loving your message and am open to help in anyway, I havent yet met anyone in the area intp permaculture and transformational business, keep me in mind If your in the area I'd be of great help, im sure! Ive been a passionate foodie for a few years, into sprouting, baking, fermenting, raw foods, beekeping,goatherding, etc etc! Love& Light to you both!
Hi Sam and everyone, esp Blain and Lindsey, count us in, lets start talking, I love your ideas and we are ready now with some money and a vision to lead by example. We just want to do it, or to join with someone else who is already doing it.
Sams ideas for integrating eveything in our lives in a manner that conciously strives for the highest and best development of all the life forms involved. Lets get back to the garden. We have to buy the land, set up the appropriate covenants in the title or more likely in the charter of the company that owns the land. The same company could own land in various scattered parts of the country, and be chartered to promote living in harmony with all life and other perma cult ure.
Lets do it right here, out in the open. I have money that needs to be spent on this before it gets spent on living expenses.
Any one know a lawyer who would help in setting up this company?
If you are interested, please submit ideas for the wording of the charter of the company. I would call it Perma Cult or maybe Enclave
The charter should be as simple as possible, consistent with being as comprehensive as we want it to be.
Here is todays take on it. I will try to elaborate in my blog wildgoatdreams.com/blog
The company will promote and enable the spread of permaculture principles as outlined in Bill Mollisons book Permaculture a Designers manual.
The company will accept moneys from persons who wish to promote such principles and will accumulate such moneys untill such time as there is enough money to enable the purchase of land which is suitable for development along permaculture principles. The company will then purchase such land and make it available to fully invested members and possibly to associate members for development of permaculture lifestyles with the assurance that, in accordance with the most basic of permaculture principles, the land will never be sold, but only an individual members share may be sold. Each person will be allowed to invest only the prescribed amount. (a person may contribute more money, but it will not buy more influence or power over other members.
Such principles will include but not be limited to,
1. Allowing each person who has contributed the decided upon amount to establish and maintain, in perpetuity a generally small amount of land for their own purposes, for establishment of a domicile or storage or whatever other purpose they desire within the prescribed perma cult ure principles.
2. There will be no attendance or work requirements or ongoing moneys required except for a persons share of property taxes or other common utilty type expenses agreed upon.
I think it must need more but cannot think of it right now. Any one else?
Thanks to everyone who has responded, I have been traveling for several weeks, so I apologize if I haven't been around. Buts it's a new year and I'm more committed to finding a path forward to a "renewable and self sustainable life", then ever. My wife is an attorney and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 15 years, so we are very serious about the idea of finding the right balance between business, lifestyle, incentive, and collectivism! I don't think many people need convincing anymore, if they just read the daily headlines, that we are heading into dangerous waters in America and abroad! The clock is ticking everyday on people who want to find a peaceful, productive, and self sustainable life!
I'm going to spend the next several weeks, finalizing a "model" for how I think we could move forward with some ideas. If you want to private message me your email address, I'll create a group list of people I'll send this document to, for feedback and further input and ideas. We live in N Cali, and we're open for meeting with people in N Cali if they are serious and feel equally committed, and we have planned a trip to Washington State for mid Feb, to take a tour of some existing Ag collectives, family farms, and the Seattle area in general. I welcome any feedback publicly on this forum post as well!
Sam and all, I just tried to send you a private msg but lost it in the process. Write to me by email if you want to contact me plse. email@example.com or by phone @707 272 7431, and I welcome talking to any one else who wants to visit about our topic. I believe we need more communication not less.
I think that we need to emphasise ways to make the physical permaculture possible by creating a legal entity which will hold the land in perpetuity and allow access to all members who will abide by the simple rules of the community. Mostly to not tell others what to do.
That being said, I think it might be the purview of the company to lay out general, and sometimes specific guidelines on the direction of the common goals for each piece of land that the company administers.
For example, the needed earthworks for water retention or drainage would be laid out, as would subsequent steps and the steady state goals that we are working toward. We would avoid extensive plantings on land that was not properly prepared.
We would lay out in a visible way, perhaps, progresive models showing where we are in the course of development, where we are going and what kind of work might be needed to move toward the goal. These would be balanced with shorter term strategies for survival.
Those details can be worked out when we have something to work with. It will be a legal entity, with chartered goals I think, that we need to decide on.
I would follow Mollisons lead to a large degree, but we have to recognise that there are significant differences in opinion about interpretation of what Mollison was suggesting. This can be a good reason for different communities with emphasis on different aspects of life. The differences that we have need not stop us from approaching our common goals.
The company might lay out appropriate places for private dwellings on the land and certain restrictions that might be apropriate in different pieces of land. There should be provision for people who like to live in a cluster, and for those who prefer privacy. For example with one membership one might get the rights to 3000ft sq. which might be a rather small house and yard in a private space, but if one were to take the same area in a venue where housing is clustered, one might have much larger spaces to share with only the others that have opted to live in the same area.
I believe that the only thing holding us back is that no one has yet drawn up the papers for such a thing and started doing it. I suspect that a lot of people would like it. I feel that looking for land is premature untill we have such a legal entity in place. Could your wife do that or do we need to hire someone else?
I suspect that we might want to engage or convene a panel of permaculture experts on some level to help us define what permaculture really means for each property, and for the direction that the company wants to spend its energy. Individual members should probably have a significant say, with the overview committee to ensure that at least the general direction of a development is consistent with the company charter. What do you think so far?
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