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So, I thought it would be a good idea to introduce our new barn cat to the chickens. Figured he would do well with all the mice and squirrels that hang out near the coop and compost pile. He is getting along with the chickens great and is definitely doing work on the rodents, but he almost immediately took to shitting in the coop. I have sand under the roosts as thats where 99% of the chicken shit is, and he decided to start going there as well. I also have a dust bath below the coop and he’s using that as well.

Id rather him go there than all over the yard and gardens, but also know that its kind of throwing a wrench in my system. Normally I sift the chicken shit a couple times per week and add it to a compost pile with their used bedding. Should I try to fling his poop elsewhere if I find it, or just leave it in with the chicken poop and compost it? I know cat poop is more dangerous as far as pathogens go but am not sure how concerned I need to be about this little bit.
 
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Does the cat have its own liter box?

If not maybe that is the solution.

If the cat has a liter box, maybe keeping the coop closed would solve the problem.
 
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Anne Miller wrote:Does the cat have its own liter box?

If not maybe that is the solution.

If the cat has a liter box, maybe keeping the coop closed would solve the problem.



We have a shed in the back yard that has a little cat house inside and a litter box. He used it regularly when we had him locked in to get him acclimated but once we got him neutered and let him roam, he goes outside to poop a lot of the time. The chickens are in the front yard and fenced in, but the cat can get in and out as he pleases. The coop door is open all day and keeping it closed isn’t something me or the chickens are interested in! They’re only in the coop to sleep and lay eggs. They’d rather be outside even in rain, snow and wind. We’ve actually got a Ladies First automatic coop door that opens at daybreak and closes after dark. We love it.
 
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Brody said, "The coop door is open all day and keeping it closed isn’t something me or the chickens are interested in!



Strange that the cat would go all the way to the front to poop in the chicken house.

My cat only poops after we feed it.  Before we got the litter box, it would sit at the door after being fed wanting to go out.

close the door of the chicken house with the chicken outside when you fed the cat and then open it after the cat poops.

Is cat poop in the chicken house all that bad?  The cat probably saw that chickens poop there and thought that was a good idea.
 
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Anne Miller wrote:



Strange that the cat would go all the way to the front to poop in the chicken house.

My cat only poops after we feed it.  Before we got the litter box, it would sit at the door after being fed wanting to go out.

close the door of the chicken house with the chicken outside when you fed the cat and then open it after the cat poops.

Is cat poop in the chicken house all that bad?  The cat probably saw that chickens poop there and thought that was a good idea.



Im not sure how much he goes there on his own. I’m gone all day for work and haven’t noticed him in there on his own on the weekends. But I bring him in there once in a while because its great area for him to hunt. One wall of our chicken fencing is a brush fence and our compost pile is near the coop, so plenty of mice and squirrels around. He almost got a big black squirrel last weekend!

I really dont know if it’s a big deal or not that he’s pooping in the coop. I know chicken manure should be aged before using around vegetables and trees but thats just because of nitrogen, not pathogens. Im pretty sure cat poop can have pathogens in it that needs either a long or a hot compost to make safe. I could be wrong though!

 
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Do you feed the cat before taking him on these adventures?

Maybe scooping out the cat poop would work for you when you see it as you are sifting/removing the bedding.

Brody said, "Normally I sift the chicken shit a couple times per week and add it to a compost pile with their used bedding. Should I try to fling his poop elsewhere if I find it,



I have no knowledge if one poop is worse than another.

Rodent poop, yes.  That is just icky.

Since I changed diapers for my kids, then washed the diapers I am sure I must have gotten it on my hands at some point in time.

I have picked up a lot of dog shit and now disposing of cat poop so I feel these are just a part of life.

I don't know about your cat but mine though skinny seems to be a healthy cat with no fleas or ticks which really surprised me when her mother dropped her off.  These are cats that live in the wild on their own. No one takes care of them.

I might not have felt this way before finding the forum and learning about using poop and pee to make better soil.

By the way, I have animals that regularly drop off poop on my patios, I know deer poop and I think the other is raccoon poop.
 
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Anne Miller wrote:Do you feed the cat before taking him on these adventures?

Maybe scooping out the cat poop would work for you when you see it as you are sifting/removing the bedding.

Brody said, "Normally I sift the chicken shit a couple times per week and add it to a compost pile with their used bedding. Should I try to fling his poop elsewhere if I find it,



I have no knowledge if one poop is worse than another.

Rodent poop, yes.  That is just icky.

Since I changed diapers for my kids, then washed the diapers I am sure I must have gotten it on my hands at some point in time.

I have picked up a lot of dog shit and now disposing of cat poop so I feel these are just a part of life.

I don't know about your cat but mine though skinny seems to be a healthy cat with no fleas or ticks which really surprised me when her mother dropped her off.  These are cats that live in the wild on their own. No one takes care of them.

I might not have felt this way before finding the forum and learning about using poop and pee to make better soil.

By the way, I have animals that regularly drop off poop on my patios, I know deer poop and I think the other is raccoon poop.



I feed him mornings and evenings but as far as when I take him into the chicken yard, that’s a little less regular. I basically just dont know if cat poop is dangerous enough with pathogens to warrant treating the chicken litter differently now that he’s pooping in there with him a bit. I mean, 99% of the poop coming out of the coop is from the chickens but there’s some cat turds mixed in. It’s probably fine if I use it buried in hugelkultures or if I compost it for a full year or two. But might be dangerous if I were to spread it around vegetables as a fertilizer.

Thats just my guess though
 
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A big one is dangers concerning toxoplasma gondii parasite, especially concerning if anyone is pregnant, as is widely known about the parasite concerning cats, I honestly don’t know how long the life cycle is viable. Lesser known impacts are its possible ties with schizophrenia, possible cause for illness other then genetic, if your genetically predisposed you may want to become more cautious. This is a neat articles on other mental changes in particularly wolves infected becoming pack leaders.  https://www.science.org/content/article/parasite-makes-wolves-more-likely-become-pack-leaders  As for bacterially it’s a lot nastier then chicken manure, but all in all I’m pretty sure humans that way are fairly hardy, lots of farm cats around organic farms I suppose, I’m not sure of other parasitic side that is maybe more problemsome.
 
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My cats do the same thing. I've never figured out how to stop it.
 
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Adam Hackenberg wrote:A big one is dangers concerning toxoplasma gondii parasite, especially concerning if anyone is pregnant, as is widely known about the parasite concerning cats, I honestly don’t know how long the life cycle is viable. Lesser known impacts are its possible ties with schizophrenia, possible cause for illness other then genetic, if your genetically predisposed you may want to become more cautious. This is a neat articles on other mental changes in particularly wolves infected becoming pack leaders.  https://www.science.org/content/article/parasite-makes-wolves-more-likely-become-pack-leaders  As for bacterially it’s a lot nastier then chicken manure, but all in all I’m pretty sure humans that way are fairly hardy, lots of farm cats around organic farms I suppose, I’m not sure of other parasitic side that is maybe more problemsome.



I actually just came across that same article the other day. Kind of interesting!

I just cant worry much about all the little bacteria, viruses and diseases causing organisms because it seems that exposure is most likely inevitable a lot of the time. My philosophy is to wash hands, cook meat, eat well, get exercise, use a lot of herbs and drink a lot of mushroom teas and tinctures. Occasionally Ill throw in some anti parasitics and antivirals in my tea or take a capsule of oregano oil if I feel particularly vulnerable. But if thats not good enough, then fuck me. We’re vasty outnumbered by things like parasites, viruses and bacteria and fighting them seems to not only be bad for us but also our environment. So adapt and live with it or die is the way I see it!

That being said, I dont want to knowingly do anything stupid like use cat poop as fertilizer. But when 99% of the poop is from chickens and 1% is from our cat, it seems hard to worry too much. I just dont know if I should compost the poop longer or try to pick the cat poop out and fling it across the road. Hot composting is unlikely for me since even turning the pile more than once a year seems to be too much to ask of me!
 
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There is truth in that philosophy, one certain thing by getting us dirty, is improved gut microbes. One thing that separates the civilized world, from poorer nations, is that cleanliness build auto immune disorders, such things not common in nations with dirtier living conditions. Another one I’ve heard of is allergies being inflamed by lack of parasites. There are view points that say it is a natural condition for humans to acquire parasites, healthy in that conditions. There’s even research that points to a certain type of tapeworm, to improving memory loss. Another parasite is shown to increase in fertility in Bolivia. One researched, or a few, even infected themselves with parasite, one saw improvement in allergy, the other simply showed no change in heath as was checked often. I’ve bitten my nails since a kid, I suspect I have healthier gut microbes because of this, possibly more parasites also. I didn’t realized you live so far north, parasites are most often killed by hard freezes.
 
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