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Can you mix hugelkultur & lasagne gardening

 
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New to all this, but have been making lasagne beds using horsemuck straw & my nearly ready compost. Want to try hugelkultur got me wood ready but no soil only my compost & straw & horse, sheep hen muck. Soil here is very stony mountain land. We also get a lot of rain & strong winds. Could you use shrub prunings i've got a load of butterfly bush I could get rid of? Any help gratefully received!
 
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That's sort of what I've been doing. I dug out as many rocks as possible and replaced them with logs and brush, and topped with old sheep hay, chicken bedding, and soil. I'm still adding more organic material to the top.

 
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You dont have to bury your hugelkultur, just 4 inches is enough. And also anything is better than just leaving it as is.
 
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The ingredients are right. And sometimes adding stuff later is the only way you can build it up. And when you put down a final layer of mulch on the top, you want to make sure that water and air pass through that layer easily.

But I see lots of people advocating layering the insides. They think of this as combining lasagna gardening and hugelkultur. It is my position that the layers of stuff on the inside is not as good as making the insides lumpy, bumpy and crazy. Some spots are heavy on carbons and some spots are heavy on nitrogen. And some spots are heavy on dirt. Some spots are soupy wet and some spots are bone dry. Some spots have a high pH and some a low pH. This is more edge in many flavors of edge, inside the hugelkultur.

With lasagna gardening, things end up being too much the same everywhere. Less edge.


 
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Thanks at least i'm on the right track I've only put wood on surface of garden haven't buried it just going to put large stones round it to try keep a decent shape & will just load everything on top going to enjoy this.
 
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If your climate is constantly wet yes. Digging out the big stones is a pain in the back on the other hand they are very useful in the garden.
I would call a landscaper and ask if they have a VERY small machine to dig you the trenches with it saves you on mattock handles and your back.
 
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Thanks Angelika do we have to dig a trench for the wood? I've already started but with the wood just laid on top of grass it's going to look like a giant grave when i've finished will stand out a bit though - get the neighbours talking!
 
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It depends how your climate is. We have seven years of drought followed by two incredibly wet years with floods, well sort of. If it is constantly moist your graveyard will work but mine didn't because the climate got dryer, really everything dyed except the tomatoes. A hill sticking out does not hold the moisture as well. Maybe I did something wrong, but common sense would dictate this.
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