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Today I deleted a post that was riddled with nasty crap. A lot of it is stuff I've heard dozens of times before. I suspect I would have heard it hundreds of times before if I had not deleted it in the past. Further, I think this site would never have grown to what it is now if I had not deleted it. But this time I have decided to share a fragment of this. Just to give folks some idea of the sort of thing that does get deleted. And, this is some of the lightest stuff. This post had some hard core bashing in it that I won't quote here.

Paul, I come from a mathematical background and I've made precise and logical statements that hold true regardless of my position in the permaculture movement. I get the impression that it's all about your ego, you say "I'm an expert", "I give away more information than all other permaculture people combined" implying that you're mr big shot famous guy, so you're always right, even when you're making nonsensical claims like "There are ways to get information into brains via the purchased DVD path that are not open in the free path."



So his argument about permaculture is correct because of his math background. But my argument is wrong because of my ego.

And, I wish to make it perfectly clear to anyone reading this. My ego is obscenely huge. Ridiculously massive. We could talk about narcissism - but it would be without a mirror. The level at which I think I am cool is freaky high. So any attempt to shame me by talking about my ego will always have the opposite effect. I am proud of my ego.

As for being from a mathematical background, keep in mind that I come from an engineering background. I have an enormous track record of working with great engineers, mathematicians and scientists. I wrote the algorithm for computing the square kilometers for any polygon with respect to the curvature of the earth in ten minutes. Damn, I'm good. And a big part of my job was to figure out which engineering, mathematics and science was crap and which was of value. Including hire/fire decisions with the people that created it. So I gotta say, a mathematical background does not, in my book, give one license to speak the utter truth.

As for "regardless of my position in the permaculture movement" - well, when we are talking about what is good for permaculture, I hardly think it is fair to say we are on equal footing. I think that if one were to make a list of the top ten voices in permaculture, I would, at the very least, make the top ten list. Whereas a quick google on your name, complete with the word "permaculture" returned zero results. So when we are talking about permaculture, I think experience can carry some weight. But your logic suggests that when talking about permaculture, a background in mathematics trumps all permaculture experience. ---- I think we just learned how feeble your "precise and logical statements" statements really are.

And finally, I built this site to talk about things I want to talk about in ways I want to talk about them. Not to be a place to broadcast crazy shit for crazy people in a nasty way.

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I post this here to give folks a general idea of the sort of thing that we remove all the time. Childish twaddle that sound like "I command you to think the thoughts that I think."

I suppose that this person, and people that sympathize with this person will think that i am a mean and terrible tyrant and they will never have anything to do with me or my site. That works out great for me.

And if they choose to tell the world what a terrible site this is because it deletes this sort of thing, then I like the idea that the receiver of such information will think "a site that actively deletes your bullshit? Sounds like paradise." So, again: works out great for me.

 
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And when you see this kind of crap, please be sure to click on "report to moderators" - that little button draws crap like this to the staff's attention about 100 times faster. We can usually get rid of it within minutes, with your help.
 
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I think I have had only two posts deleted so far. Pretty good for me! I post here because more often than not there is feedback. Keeping your forum clean is a good deal for the long term. Thanks.
 
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I think there are two types of big egos:
1. Those that can back up their ego with real knowledge and ability
2. Those that can't.


For instance, the guy that wrote that message attempts to prove his point by using "appeal to authority",
a logical error, and also posting opinions as fact (comment about DVD path) , and finally having the nerve to
criticize someone in their own place.

Paul, however proves over and over that he knows what he is talking about, and the direction and force of his
ego keeps permies on track.
For internet forums the benevolent dictator model works better than the democratic leader model.


Do I get an apple for referring to Mr. Wheaton in the third person? lol j/k

 
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hey Paul,
The 1st time I went onto your site and was flipping through recent topics, one was of extreme interest and as I read down, some idiot was screaming a blirb, followed with a constant "are you hearing me yet?" and then another entry. Totally offensive so I went to another topic only to return to the origional and happily his crap was deleted. You had from that moment! thanks to you and your band of helpers.
Sincerely,
Fruitless in VA
 
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Marianne Cooper wrote:hey Paul,
The 1st time I went onto your site and was flipping through recent topics, one was of extreme interest and as I read down, some idiot was screaming a blirb, followed with a constant "are you hearing me yet?" and then another entry. Totally offensive so I went to another topic only to return to the origional and happily his crap was deleted. You had from that moment! thanks to you and your band of helpers.
Sincerely,
Fruitless in VA



The important thing here is that there are a few people that enjoy a heavily moderated forum.

I suppose, more importantly, there are a teeny tiny few that like the way that *I* moderate. And this forum is for those people. And I hope that the rest find a different community where they can be happy.

 
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