My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
Idle dreamer
Our inability to change everything should not stop us from changing what we can.
Tyler Ludens wrote:
Is it ok to get paid to do evil (many of our non-permaculture jobs are destructive), but not ok to be paid to do good?
I don't get it.....
Sustainable Plantations and Agroforestry in Costa Rica
Idle dreamer
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
Sustainable Plantations and Agroforestry in Costa Rica
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
Sustainable Plantations and Agroforestry in Costa Rica
Ask me about food.
How Permies.com Works (lots of useful links)
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
Our inability to change everything should not stop us from changing what we can.
Rion Mather wrote:It does send mixed messages when you are promoting community and changing the world through a price.
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
paul wheaton wrote:Here is another thought that just popped into my head: for those people that want non-free things to be free - have you first consumed all of the free information that is available? At this moment, I have nearly 200 podcasts, 160 videos, a dozen articles, dozens of blog entries and thousands of threads that are free.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
paul wheaton wrote:Here is another thought that just popped into my head: for those people that want non-free things to be free - have you first consumed all of the free information that is available? At this moment, I have nearly 200 podcasts, 160 videos, a dozen articles, dozens of blog entries and thousands of threads that are free.
Robert Ray wrote: Everything for free just boggles my mind where does it end? Should a place at my table be free? Should my house be open to others? Property that I have improved should you be allowed to take my gardening efforts for free? Some of it? All of it? Excuse the term but it's a mind rape.
Let's not degrade it into some cheap commodity and find a way to leverage it to make a few bucks, and in doing so insure that it is only capable of reaching .1% of the population.
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
Our inability to change everything should not stop us from changing what we can.
Robert Ray wrote: I don't pay a doctor because he has anything more tangible than knowledge.
I don't pay a lawyer for anything more tangible than knowledge.
Lawyers do Pro Bono work and that is free knowledge that they distribute.
How much dough for a piece of paper with a degree on It wasn't free for wall hanger, Teachers get compensated for distributing knowledge.
Quite simple
Our inability to change everything should not stop us from changing what we can.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
"It's all one song!" -Neil Young
Matt Smith wrote:
paul wheaton wrote:Here is another thought that just popped into my head: for those people that want non-free things to be free - have you first consumed all of the free information that is available? At this moment, I have nearly 200 podcasts, 160 videos, a dozen articles, dozens of blog entries and thousands of threads that are free.
I don't think anyone is expressing the belief that all permaculture information is somehow locked behind a paywall. Obviously quite a bit of information is available for free. But your above statement appears to imply that all information is equal regardless of format, accessibility, or organization, and this is simply not the case.
Firstly: Access to a concise, well-organized and tested reference volume is very much different from the ability to dig through thousands of conversations between individuals (which may or may not stay on topic and whose knowledge or opinions in many cases may be misinformed, biased or unreliable). I know this firsthand because I'm currently in the process of assembling a permaculture manual of sorts whose content is specific to my area, and I have spent countless hours sifting through forum posts (amongst other sources) to glean the frequently small gems of relevant and accurate information. I am doing this precisely so that I will be able to share this specialized information with others (for free) in a format that will not require them expending the same time and effort I am putting in (because 99 out of 100 people would/could not).
Secondly: All of the above-mentioned free information, whilst very accessible and helpful to me (who has full-time access to a computer with a dedicated internet connection, the electricity to power it, and the time to access it) may not be as helpful to someone without those things. In the small town I live in many people do not have a computer, and of those that do many don't have the internet. The internet is available at the library, but many of these people are working class folks with very demanding jobs (sometimes more than one), families, and little free time... so even if they do have limited access to the web, they may not have the option to utilize it for the purposes we're discussing. And that's here in America where we're living high on the hog (I wonder how caught up the poor farmers in Haiti or Afghanistan are on their podcasts?)
Thirdly: There's the issue of common credibility. I can teach myself any number of skills utilizing freely available resources (and have), but in our current society there are precious few pathways between independently acquired ability and widely accepted accreditation for same. I could teach myself electrical engineering perfectly well, but getting a job in that field without the "official" credentials would still be nearly impossible. Attending a permaculture design certification course usually requires $500 (or more) and a week of free time. Most people can't swing that. I am absolutely sure you could find that same information for free, but your options for greater application of that knowledge are at that point somewhat limited. As far as most people are concerned you would essentially be an Internet Expert, and these days that's a title just about everybody's got.
The question at the bottom of this, as far as I can see, is a simple one: What is the point of permaculture?
If permaculture is a revolutionary system of reorganizing the interactions between man and nature in a way that benefits all, and has the potential to be a game-changer for the sustainability of human life and society, then let's treat it that way. We're not talking about hockey tickets or potatoes here, folks. This sh*t could literally change the world. Let's not degrade it into some cheap commodity and find a way to leverage it to make a few bucks, and in doing so insure that it is only capable of reaching .1% of the population. We can do that (and have) with just about everything else in our society, and the results speak for themselves.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to a seed swap I'm hosting, at which I will be giving away hundreds of dollars worth of heirloom and open-pollinated seeds and hopefully disseminating as much useful information on how to utilize them as possible.
people who sell are clearly biased by their commercial position and to discuss this with them might be counterproductive in the sense that it may only aggravate them further...
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
Robert Ray wrote: An Artist performing the same song that was performed at another venue should only be compensated for one operformance?
paul wheaton wrote:
people who sell are clearly biased by their commercial position and to discuss this with them might be counterproductive in the sense that it may only aggravate them further...
About three months ago, I gave everything away for free. And now I have started to sell some stuff.
So I guess that discussing this issue with me might be counterproductive?
You are suggesting this while using my site for free.
At the same time, I give away more information about permaculture than all other permaculture people combined. But your statement suggests that discussion this topic with me would be counterproductive.
I think my voice should not be so casually dismissed in this discussion.
Matt Smith wrote:The question at the bottom of this, as far as I can see, is a simple one: What is the point of permaculture?
If permaculture is a revolutionary system of reorganizing the interactions between man and nature in a way that benefits all, and has the potential to be a game-changer for the sustainability of human life and society, then let's treat it that way. We're not talking about hockey tickets or potatoes here, folks. This sh*t could literally change the world. Let's not degrade it into some cheap commodity and find a way to leverage it to make a few bucks, and in doing so insure that it is only capable of reaching .1% of the population. We can do that (and have) with just about everything else in our society, and the results speak for themselves.
That is why i don't mix them. That is why i create strong connections with people that share that insight. Somewhere along the way there is a compromise, a compromise between community/share and profit. That is why i keep a healthy distance from projects with people who do mix them, so that i don't accidentally get caught in the middle of one of those compromises.
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
laura sharpe wrote:
I do not know for sure all you charge for but if your intention is to spread the word putting roadblocks in the way doesnt seem to be the right thing to do.
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
My books, movies, videos, podcasts, events ... the big collection of paul wheaton stuff!
laura sharpe wrote:I
When I first looked up rocket mass heaters, i was also looking up masonary heaters and other thing, I ran into your websight ( all of which have advertisements on them) and i looked around but to tell the truth, i was completely turned off when i saw that they were selling pdfs for 20 to 35 american dollars....pdfs! I bought a book for $15 dollars, I was completely moved away from anything to do with this sight. I am sorry but that is too much for an adobe file. You dont even need a stamp to mail that stuff. It took quite a bit more time for me to come back too.
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