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Tyler Ludens wrote:Seva, is there a particular book you're looking to buy right now? You might be able to find it for a lower price through http://www.abebooks.com/
Deb Rebel wrote:
Tyler Ludens wrote:Seva, is there a particular book you're looking to buy right now? You might be able to find it for a lower price through http://www.abebooks.com/
Or see if your local library has a copy, or is willing to acquire a copy for general circulation... or go in with some friends and pool money to buy the book?
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C. Letellier wrote:Book education does not replace practical experience. Say I was teaching installing poly line for underground water line. I can say to be sure to use ALL stainless hose clamps for the splices. But it won't mean much to you till you have spent 10 hours with a shovel digging up a leaking splice that failed because the hose clamp box simply said stainless(rather than all stainless) and didn't mention that the worm is galvanized steel in that type of clamp. Thing is that failure may take a decade or more to happen so the guy who made that mistake thought he had done it right because it worked initially. But digging that line up with shovel in the middle of a mud hole that is caving off from the sides and where your boots sink deeper than the shovel with every shovel full and the mud sticks to the shovel so badly you have to bang every shovel full off rapidly makes the "All" in all stainless mean something to you that no amount of classroom time every will. Since I was both the idiot that thought I had done the job right to begin with and the person who over a decade later had to dig it up by hand because it was no longer possible to get a backhoe to that location because of more recent buildings trust me that lesson stuck. The person teaching the class needs to be someone who has the book knowledge but who also has paid the price of the experiences like digging that water line up a decade later because they didn't know better to begin with.
Tyler Ludens wrote:Seva, is there a particular book you're looking to buy right now? You might be able to find it for a lower price through http://www.abebooks.com/
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Seva Tokarev wrote:
Tyler Ludens wrote:Seva, is there a particular book you're looking to buy right now? You might be able to find it for a lower price through http://www.abebooks.com/
Thank you.
Just today I looked up "The Bio-Integrated Farm", which has list price of $40 (that's where my arbitrary figure must be coming from) but sells for $27 on Amazon; I am not sure if I will read it more then once, or even if I read it once completely; I ended up requesting one at the library.
The next one in my list is "The humanure handbook", which is reasonably priced at $15 for an in octavo 250-pages book; e-book is $10.
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Emily Smith wrote:Without giving my sob story, when time and money are both tight and/or unstable, it is really hard to justify the investment, even if it would ultimately save time and money in the long haul. That doesn't mean I think it should all be free; enough information is free that a person can sift through it if they have the time and are willing to learn from mistakes as well. It's just why some people, myself included, are reluctant to invest in the courses and such that do cost money.
laura sharpe wrote:It seems to me you are all preaching to the choir.
I do not know for sure all you charge for but if your intention is to spread the word putting roadblocks in the way doesnt seem to be the right thing to do.
When I first looked up rocket mass heaters, i was also looking up masonary heaters and other thing, I ran into your websight ( all of which have advertisements on them) and i looked around but to tell the truth, i was completely turned off when i saw that they were selling pdfs for 20 to 35 american dollars....pdfs! I bought a book for $15 dollars, I was completely moved away from anything to do with this sight. I am sorry but that is too much for an adobe file. You dont even need a stamp to mail that stuff. It took quite a bit more time for me to come back too.
I have no troubles with charges for workshops, i would not have had trouble at all if the charge for the pdf file was 5 or ten dollars but to me, these people did nothing original.
I do not mind you being paid, I know your idol charges for everything from the tour to the lecture. He does not charge for the idea though, he charges for his time. Offer donations, offer to sell things but be reasonable about it all.
Oh dont tell me to look at the rock star, they are over paid, movie stars too...but they are not trying to start a revolution. Sometimes you put your back where your mouth is.
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paul wheaton wrote:Here is another thought that just popped into my head: for those people that want non-free things to be free - have you first consumed all of the free information that is available? At this moment, I have nearly 200 podcasts, 160 videos, a dozen articles, dozens of blog entries and thousands of threads that are free.
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