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Again, still out in the woods as I submit this! So much fun!!
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Treeeee chosen
Treeeee chosen
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Notched. Man that took a while
Notched. Man that took a while
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Woooooah we're half way there
Woooooah we're half way there
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See you later
See you later
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Juuuuuust touching the 6" mark. I apologise for the non-freedom units
Juuuuuust touching the 6" mark. I apologise for the non-freedom units
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Cut down a leaning live tree that was very close to a bigger straight tree. Used a bow saw with a little help from a hatchet.
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Diameter over 7”
Diameter over 7”
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Downed tree
Downed tree
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I'm using a silkie pruning saw to cut down this pine.
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I felled a live tree with a bow saw!
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Felled tree
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Sawing action! Mike ponders life in the background
Sawing action! Mike ponders life in the background
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Ok, so I tentatively hate the bow saw. It’s possible that mine just sucks or that I chose a dumb tree for a beginner, or that I’ll have better luck next time. But, man, was this rough. I’ve worked on this tree for something like six hours over three days.

I know there are more pictures here than are needed, but I had to tell the tale. And I get that this isn’t an example of perfect lumberjacking, but I got the tree down and solved a lot of problems along the way.
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This maple is twisted and deformed and interfering with the healthy pine.
This maple is twisted and deformed and interfering with the healthy pine.
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I expected it to be easy and got these tools out.
I expected it to be easy and got these tools out.
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I eventually got a wedge cut out on the underside of that curve.
I eventually got a wedge cut out on the underside of that curve.
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And then cutting toward the wedge from above, my saw got stuck.
And then cutting toward the wedge from above, my saw got stuck.
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After failing to free it by hammering shims in behind, I got another saw and cut downward but it started to bind.
After failing to free it by hammering shims in behind, I got another saw and cut downward but it started to bind.
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I decided the shape was to blame so I trimmed off the top branches and started the wedge again about eye-level.
I decided the shape was to blame so I trimmed off the top branches and started the wedge again about eye-level.
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Everything was tight, but I got close enough to through, that I could push it into falling.
Everything was tight, but I got close enough to through, that I could push it into falling.
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Getting the weight off didn’t free my saw so I wanted to use a hatchet as a wedge and needed a mallet so I stopped and made one and that was the thing that worked.
Getting the weight off didn’t free my saw so I wanted to use a hatchet as a wedge and needed a mallet so I stopped and made one and that was the thing that worked.
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So I resumed work with the bow saw, down toward the original wedge, but it was binding so I did the hatchet as a wedge trick and just hit the top with a sledge until it broke.
So I resumed work with the bow saw, down toward the original wedge, but it was binding so I did the hatchet as a wedge trick and just hit the top with a sledge until it broke.
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The tree!
The tree!
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The stump!
The stump!
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Felling trees with bow saws can be difficult. Easily stuck, as you discovered. I find them more useful for removing limbs.

Hard to be sure from a picture but I think you could have saved some grief & done it much faster if you would have made the initial cut about where the arrow is. It looks like the weight of the leaning tree would have brought it down without needing a wedge cut or pinching the saw.
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I own that bow saw because I had to cut limbs (<3") right up against a fence at our old house and didn't want to just zip through the limb and into the fence with a chainsaw. So I agree that they have their place.

And I'm not sure if it was clear from my photos, but the wedge was basically where that arrow you drew would come out the other side and then I did start cutting along your arrow. When it bound, I thought the weight of the tree was causing it to close up and there wasn't enough cut through that I could just shove it into falling. Maybe I had the right placement of my cut but the wrong angle or something. Anyway, I'll pick straight trees for my next couple drops!
 
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