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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in woodland care.

Green trees are especially easy to peel and carve.  Green trees are also good for the sawmill.

Felling trees is not something you should attempt on a whim.  Proper tree selection and safety planning need to be included in your preparation.  There are many videos out there that show good and bad practices.  If they are sponsored by a chainsaw company you can be pretty sure they are showing good practices.  Searching YouTube for "Idiots with chainsaws" will also give you some good ideas of what NOT to do.  This is actually a good thing to check because it's hard to always understand the problems that poor practices can lead to.

When selecting a tree to drop, select a tree from a spot that has too many trees and/or the tree has a defect (so we don't want it to have baby defective trees).   If the tree is a nice looking tree, but is crowded, take a smaller tree.




To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
 - drop 6” to 8” live tree with a chainsaw

To document your completion of the BB, provide the following as pics or video (<2 min):
 - your chosen tree
 - tree with the wedge/notch cut
 - tree on the ground
 - measure across the stump showing diameter

Clarifications:
- Trees larger than 8" diameter are ok if that's what your woodland care plans require to be cut
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I could not resist Mike... :-)



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Sizing up the tree for selection and lean
Sizing up the tree for selection and lean
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Making my notch (conventional as it was a verneer log)
Making my notch (conventional as it was a verneer log)
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Safely on the ground and bucking it up
Safely on the ground and bucking it up
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Proving it never was just left in the woods
Proving it never was just left in the woods
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I certify this BB is complete

 
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Hey thanks Paul!

I just happened to have the pictures so I posted them, but in retrospect it was good to show how this could easily be done. I am glad my pictures could be a real-world, real member of Permies example of how to complete a task. Thanks...I feel I have given a little back for all permies have given me!
 
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Well, I did this, and I am still alive. And glad that I did it. We learned a lot. A. Lot. A friend had a tree that was blocking a lot of sun and I said I would help. Luckily, the tree wasn't too big, plus it had three stems, which we cut starting with the smallest and on up. The mistake we made with the small stem wasn't a big deal, and by the time we tackled the main trunk, we knew a little more. And did I mention that no one died?!


The tree


Me and the tree and the wedge cut


My friend and the tree and the back cut


tree down!


on the ground!

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i certify that this BB is complete!

 
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I think I knocked this one out today.  Mid sized tamarack, about 9" at the cut, in the way of another bigger tree that will be dropped in the future (dying white pine).   It's the tree in the middle of the first picture with an orange ribbon on it.
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tree with oragne tape
tree with oragne tape
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Notched cut
Notched cut
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Tree fallen
Tree fallen
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I hereby certify this BB as complete!

 
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