Looking For Others & Info & Guidance

Hi, I'm Daniel

The short version is - I've spent the first half of my life in music and the second half in politics, research, and political activism - only to realize, within the past four years that it was all in jest. In that time, I learned a number of things about the who, what, when, where, why & how. At this point, there is a ticking clock and the city is no place to be. I am looking to move out of the city and rid myself of dependency upon all 'system' things - banking , grocery store, gas pumps, internet service, etc. The decision to go is not based on fear, but more to do with staying true to my values and morals, which I cannot do living my current lifestyle.

I have the means to go but I want to be around other like-minded folks in a sort of collaboration. Maybe not quite an intentional community, but a number of folks and families within proximity to one another who can fill the necessary gaps we all need filled.

I have done some cursory searching on various sites, but haven't found a reliable source to point me in the correct direction of connecting with others who share my passion.

I'd like to purchase property, somewhere, and build a self-sufficient life on that property, within proximity to other folks like me. I'm not certain of where I want to go, but my heart is set on northern Utah or northern Colorado, or perhaps Idaho or Wyoming, but I'm not averse to considering other options.

I'm single, 44 years old, male and hetero. If anyone has some suggestions or ideas I would tremendously appreciate any guidance. Don't hold back, please.

Thank You

Daniel Russ wrote:At this point, there is a ticking clock and the city is no place to be.

Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Where abouts are you located?

Richard Hanson wrote:

Daniel Russ wrote:At this point, there is a ticking clock and the city is no place to be.

Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Where abouts are you located?

I'm currently located in Charlotte NC, but I'm looking to head west.

Southwest Oregon here.

Hi Daniel, nice to meet you my name is Jon. The viewpoint you expressed is valid and shared by many. I have found that 'balance' in principle can go a long way in the procurement of Sustainability. While it may feel foreign to moderate one's values initially, it is wise to. do so because everyone contributes to the Futilitarian condition, and sometimes 'slow wins the race'.
I recently relocated to SE. Arizona from the Big Island of Hawaii after considering many new locations. Many 'off-graders' live without zoning or covenants to restrict them in Cochise County. The mountains are beautiful, and the high desert is teeming with wildlife. Arts and culture are prolific, and the climate is awesome, especially the skies during the monsoon season (summer). The night sky is dark and full of stars. Many people are migrating here from cities like myself.
I am in the market to by another homestead. I achieved my PDC in 2021 but have been groundskeeping and landscaping all my life. I built a homestead in NW Montana before Hawaii, an area that I loved also that had no zoning/land restrictions. There are so many unique places to live, but the prices of real estate are definitely variable for some people.
I want to collaborate with others to split up the homesteading/permaculture workload for one person and perhaps share resources and companionship. I am currently in the market.
Again, I encourage you to refrain from any immediate extreme life and lifestyle decisions. Take your time. I am a Non-vegan today and find it much more manageable and healthier than when I was a strict vegetarian years ago.
All the best to you. Peace.

[quote=Jon Hanzen]Hi Daniel, nice to meet you my name is Jon. The viewpoint you expressed is valid and shared by many. I have found that 'balance' in principle can go a long way in the procurement of Sustainability. While it may feel foreign to moderate one's values initially, it is wise to. do so because everyone contributes to the Futilitarian condition, and sometimes 'slow wins the race'.
I recently relocated to SE. Arizona from the Big Island of Hawaii after considering many new locations. Many 'off-graders' live without zoning or covenants to restrict them in Cochise County. The mountains are beautiful, and the high desert is teeming with wildlife. Arts and culture are prolific, and the climate is awesome, especially the skies during the monsoon season (summer). The night sky is dark and full of stars. Many people are migrating here from cities like myself.
I am in the market to by another homestead. I achieved my PDC in 2021 but have been groundskeeping and landscaping all my life. I built a homestead in NW Montana before Hawaii, an area that I loved also that had no zoning/land restrictions. There are so many unique places to live, but the prices of real estate are definitely variable for some people.
I want to collaborate with others to split up the homesteading/permaculture workload for one person and perhaps share resources and companionship. I am currently in the market.
Again, I encourage you to refrain from any immediate extreme life and lifestyle decisions. Take your time. I am a Non-vegan today and find it much more manageable and healthier than when I was a strict vegetarian years ago.
All the best to you. Peace.
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Thank you for the response and advice. I don't understand what you mean by 'moderating one's values', but it's not important. I understand there is a large population of pioneering 'off-graders' living in AZ. It's interesting, but definitely not where I want to be. I'm just looking for other folks who have either planted their flag, or seek to, and collaborate in building an economic ecosystem, of sorts, centered around sustainability.

These aren't immediate, extreme lifestyle changes. I didn't come to this understanding moments before making this post. After a lifetime of working to reconcile these issues that plague us, it has become apparent that there is no reconciliation to be had. As such, it's time to move in a new direction which I've been doing for several years, now. Thank you for the sentiments, though. While I don't agree with them, I appreciate you chiming in.

Richard Hanson wrote:Southwest Oregon here.

Tell me more! Are you living self-sufficiently? Are you involved with a community of others in your immediate area? Oregon is BEAUTIFUL, but I hadn't spent me time looking into Oregon living. Some great perks thee, it seems, but some very big drawbacks.

Daniel Russ wrote:Hi, I'm Daniel

The short version is - I've spent the first half of my life in music and the second half in politics, research, and political activism - only to realize, within the past four years that it was all in jest. In that time, I learned a number of things about the who, what, when, where, why & how. At this point, there is a ticking clock and the city is no place to be. I am looking to move out of the city and rid myself of dependency upon all 'system' things - banking , grocery store, gas pumps, internet service, etc. The decision to go is not based on fear, but more to do with staying true to my values and morals, which I cannot do living my current lifestyle.

I have the means to go but I want to be around other like-minded folks in a sort of collaboration. Maybe not quite an intentional community, but a number of folks and families within proximity to one another who can fill the necessary gaps we all need filled.

I have done some cursory searching on various sites, but haven't found a reliable source to point me in the correct direction of connecting with others who share my passion.

I'd like to purchase property, somewhere, and build a self-sufficient life on that property, within proximity to other folks like me. I'm not certain of where I want to go, but my heart is set on northern Utah or northern Colorado, or perhaps Idaho or Wyoming, but I'm not averse to considering other options.

I'm single, 44 years old, male and hetero. If anyone has some suggestions or ideas I would tremendously appreciate any guidance. Don't hold back, please.

Thank You

Thank you for saying this, Daniel, I agree entirely. I realize too the city environment, such as where I still am after all this time, is no place to remain, there is need to be away on land where plenty of things for what is needed can be grown, with any others like-minded and compatible joined in that for a small community, which would be sustainable, and this is what I need to find, with it not being still much longer. I am not as young either but I will have seeds to use for working on that and I would work on that for it to work, with any others. I don't use unneeded substances either, that would compromise good health in any way.

I am in California, I most prefer to be in the area, if outside California then in a state near to it.

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we are not pioneers or doing ANYTHING new and interesting,,it has all been done before,,before the European experiment in the Americas,,the approach to "permaculture" is typically swathed in the same old patriotic silliness but from a different denomination