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I am new to the bio-char arena and am excited, but also don't want to ruin the tender soil in this area.  We have "strongly alkaline" soil. (There are many fields covered with white alkali.) The rocky, dry, sandy soil is extremely alkaline; daily winds between 20-65mph and only 6-10 inches of annual rain.

Since biochar is effectually alkaline, I was hoping to find ways to utilize the water-retention capabilities of biochar while mitigating the alkalinity as it breaks down.  

It looks like certain feedstock (bamboo and pine needles) may have an acidifying effect when it's biochar is added to alkaline soil. I have yet to look into pyrolysis for pine needles.  However, would there be certain inoculants more acidic in nature that would compensate or mitigate the alkaline biochar? Basically making the biochar more neutral or even acidic?  Any suggestions?


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http://biochar.pbworks.com/w/page/9748050/Soil%20pH
https://soilseries.sc.egov.usda.gov/OSD_Docs/S/SAN_LUIS.html
https://www.usclimatedata.com/climate/alamosa/colorado/united-states/usco0004
 
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This is a great question. I advocate inoculating with nutritious items that are inexpensive to you. I have an orchard, so I use rotten fruit, which should be acidic.
 
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I heard, not sure where, that bokashi liquid (the liquid that drains out of a bokashi bucket during fermentation) is a good and acidic inoculant for biochar. Makes sense that it's acidic, it should be something akin to the juice from lactofermented veggies...
 
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It is a whole process, but there is potential for wood vinegar to be utilized.

Honestly, I wonder if 'regular' vinegar could be used to the same effect. I'm trying to think of 'free' sources of acidification for biochar and coming up without a whole lot of ideas.

 
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Keep in mind that the ph of biochar can vary. I have seen reports from neutral to very alkaline, like 11.  I think it mostly depends on how much ash is in it.  I try to be careful not to leave too much ash. Mostly I do that by trying to stop my TLUD by drenching it with water at the right time, before too much ash is generated.  NOrmally, I have a very small bit of wood that is not completely burned and I have to save it and burn it the next time, which is not a problem.  

I have read before that urine is neutral as it leaves the body, so I would definitely also use that. It's free and convenient.  

As Eino referred to, almost anything fermented will become quite acidic.  If you have old vegetables that you cut out, or banana peels, orange rinds, coffee grounds, compostable stuff etc., fermenting them would make them quite acidic.  That seems like the easiest and cheapest thing to do. Put them under water with a rock on the lid, or whatever your favorite method is.

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Such helpful input, Eino, Timothy, and John, thank you!

Eino, I actually started using the bokashi method this year and love it.  What  I haven't figured out yet is if I need to aerate the bokashi tea or not. (Since bokashi uses anaerobic environment.)  Definitely will try the lactofermented juice, that is a great idea.

Timothy, that is an interesting thought about wood or any vinegar, I'll look into that.  

I'm trying to think of 'free' sources of acidification for biochar and coming up without a whole lot of ideas.


I would love to hear any of your ideas!

John, Thank you for pointing me the right direction.  I have read many of your posts and tried to glean as much as I can from your experience, thank you for sharing what you have learned!  I have a stash of biochar saved up and planning on rinsing off any residual ash, I assume before soaking it in water. Also keeping the biochar as larger pieces and not ground down too much.  Regarding the urine, I wonder if rabbit urine would work well, as I try to separate rabbit "pellets" from the urine.  For the compost, I definitely use a lot of citrus, banana peels, veggies, etc. in my bokashi composter.

Appreciate any all all ideas!
 
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Yes, I think rabbit urine would work well, but you may have a source even more reliable and convenient than that.

The compost sounds great, although I will warn you.  Red wriggler worms and earthworms are said to hate citrus.  So you may compost the citrus in a separate way.  We throw our alliums (onions, etc) and citrus off the deck so it just lands on the surface of the garden.  Worms avoid them, so I don't want that in the worm bin or the compost pile.  Once they decompose, I'm sure worms won't hate them as much.

Bigger chunks of biochar are better for very arid conditions. They conserve water in them.

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Thank you John!  Yeah, the citrus (and everything you can't put in a hot compost) gets fermented by the bokashi composter, so the worms don't get it until it after it is processed, then they love it.

Excited to employ all the ideas and see good results.
 
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Working on a 200 sq ft garden over alkaline (ph 7.8) silt-sand, I just covered a 2" layer of 50/50 silt-sand biochar mix with a 4" layer of composted horse manure. The resulting planting mix is probably high in salt and ph so I'm interested in reviving this thread.
My plan is to hose the bed down (we only get 11" rain per year), then let the compost filter into the biochar for 6 months of inoculation. About a month before planting, I intend to add soil sulfur to bring the ph down then use a broad fork to blend the top 12". My goal is neutral ph.
Anyone see a problem with this approach or have suggestions to optimize results? Thanks for sharing any experience!
 
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Seems to make sense.  Lack of rain is one of the main reasons for alkali soils, as the calcium, etc. is never washed out.

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Amy Gardener wrote:Working on a 200 sq ft garden over alkaline (ph 7. silt-sand, I just covered a 2" layer of 50/50 silt-sand biochar mix with a 4" layer of composted horse manure. The resulting planting mix is probably high in salt and ph so I'm interested in reviving this thread.
My plan is to hose the bed down (we only get 11" rain per year), then let the compost filter into the biochar for 6 months of inoculation. About a month before planting, I intend to add soil sulfur to bring the ph down then use a broad fork to blend the top 12". My goal is neutral ph.
Anyone see a problem with this approach or have suggestions to optimize results? Thanks for sharing any experience!



To me this sounds on the right track. Have you looked into gypsum(calcium sulfate dihydrate)? A mineral that has not only sulfur but calcium too. Either will take time but I think that even if you don't get a soil test to 7, if there is enough micro organism diversity and roots in the soil they can manage the rest. It will get better over time. Gypsum should help with soil structure some as well as long as you don't already have an overabundance of calcium for some reason.
 
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Humates are thought to lower pH in a high pH soil and raise pH in a low pH soil. How humates work is somewhat of a mystery, started using them in 2025, both liquid and granular.

blackearth.com
Filename: Pettit-OM-Humic-Substances.pdf
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Thank you all for your replies John, Les and Doug. In my case (as John alluded), the land and ground water have an excess of calcium as well as magnesium (limescale everywhere). Sulphur without calcium is necessary in my case but other readers without the excess may like the gypsum option.
Doug, the background that you provided is helpful in expanding my knowledge of options (apparently Northwestern New Mexico is a humate mining region). I will look at the viability of local sustainable options. Thanks for expanding the possibilities.
 
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Amy,

You may want to check for an OMRI label on any humate you are considering, I am organic here so that is why I use Blackearth humic/fulvic acid. What is nice about humates is you need so very little, with the liquid it can be as little 8 to 16 ounces per acre in furrow. At $17.00 per gallon that is quite a reasonable fertility amendment. Humates are thought to make available the trace elements that can be complexed in high pH soil like I have here, my pH is in the low 8's. I do not get too caught up in soil pH as a high number likely means high potential fertility. I have high calcium, magnesium and potassium, all good in growing plants, need a working soil to make them available. Soil pH can fluctuate by quite a bit during the growing season as plants have the ability to somewhat adjust pH to their liking.
 
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