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maslin (mixed grain polyculture)

 
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So, I'm wanting to grow small grains. I've grown a little wheat and a mixed-grain cover crop. I also want to landrace everything. So I've been acquiring broad genetics in wheat and upland rice and barley and a little bit of rye and oats. And I'm looking at them all and trying to figure out how I want to grow them and what I want to select for. And it's an aside for this particular subject, but I've got Marc Bonfils in the back of my head whenever thinking about wheat. And I wondered about just mixing them all and whether that would be a cool idea or a giant clusterfuck. (Like, maybe they all need to be harvested at a different time or maybe threshed and winnowed using a different procedure, and this will be a terrible idea.)

So I start searching around and I find this article on maslin and it kind of electrifies me. The next thing to do, obviously, is search Permies to see how y'all are engaging with this idea.

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Really? Nothing? A few people throw out mixed grains for livestock to eat in the field and that's it. Huh.

But, maybe it's just that no one has written about it. So I'm here asking...have you done this? Is it a thing? How does it work and how has it worked for you?
 
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This is so interesting! I've just moved my own gardening focus toward starchy, calorie-dense crops and I would love to give this a try. It seems to be such a practical solution to many problems around growing grain, even for small homesteaders and home gardeners. I'm by no means an expert, but I'll be watching this thread to see what other folks think. Thank you for sharing this!
 
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Just warehousing some related links:
Discussion at GTS (I must have read this when it was fresh and then semi-forgot)
Canadian maslins
stabilize crop yields with maslins

No specific connection to maslin, but I want to stow them somewhere:
continuous grain cropping
RED Gardens first time wheat
 
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While I have no details myself, I know people are doing this. Going to Seed had a mixed summer grain landrace that they offered this year. (2024) I was able to get a package. But I don't know what records I'll be able to keep on them this year.

Maybe Joseph Lofthouse has some insight to offer?
 
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I also got a packet of summer grains from GTS. I was thinking today about mixing it with my wheat, barley, and rye just to see how it works.
 
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Ok, we’re expecting a rainy weekend and I hustled to get a maslin experiment planted today.

Things didn't really go as planned. I ran out of summer grain mix less than half way through my plot, so I used the other mix of grain lightly on those seeded loci and more heavily on the ones missed. But no harm -- it's all experimentation.
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Spading out a single planting locus
Spading out a single planting locus
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After stomping it down, with turf at the bottom
After stomping it down, with turf at the bottom
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76 planting loci
76 planting loci
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Maslin consists of diverse wheat and barley, plus some rye and summer grains. I added clover, daikon, and alliums for diversity
Maslin consists of diverse wheat and barley, plus some rye and summer grains. I added clover, daikon, and alliums for diversity
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Once things are mixed up, this is how I took it outside.
Once things are mixed up, this is how I took it outside.
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Grain is tossed down and stepped on then followed with a heavy sprinkle of clover.
Grain is tossed down and stepped on then followed with a heavy sprinkle of clover.
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Onions of several varieties got added last.
Onions of several varieties got added last.
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Each locus gets a large handful of potting/starting soil on top
Each locus gets a large handful of potting/starting soil on top
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All done...we'll see what happens.
All done...we'll see what happens.
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And we're expecting enough rain that things should be good!
 
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