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Abe Connally wrote:
DO NOT USE METAL!!! metal is bad for fish, so whatever you do, don't use metal tubing.
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R Scott wrote:
Abe Connally wrote:
DO NOT USE METAL!!! metal is bad for fish, so whatever you do, don't use metal tubing.
I know copper is bad, but plain steel? I see pics/vids of steel tanks all the time in aussie systems. learn something new every day...
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"You must be the change you want to see in the world." "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
"Preach the Gospel always, and if necessary, use words." --Francis of Assisi.
"Family farms work when the whole family works the farm." -- Adam Klaus
R Scott wrote:The ones that I was sure didn't have liners has liners-- I confused the construction pictures of their (stand-alone) wicking beds with their AP system. Oops
Thanks, I would have made the mistake myself.
DON'T USE METAL
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R Scott wrote:What do they have to work with? You can build them with almost anything that holds water. Plastic isn't the best, it is just the best price in the US.
Barrel systems: http://www.fastonline.org/images/manuals/Aquaculture/Aquaponic_Information/barrelponics_manual_email.pdf or http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/systems/barrel-systems/ibarrel-aquaponic-system-1/
Ferrocement: http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1404
I can't find the plans now, but have seen LEAP-type systems made from a dug hole lined with plastic. Yes it was plastic, but ONE SHEET of plastic, air pump, water pump, and 10 feet of tube were the only non-local items--and they were able to fit in a big shoe box for shipping.
Biggest issue for most systems is power. Look for the LEAP systems (Low Energy AquaPonics) systems here and on the backyardaquaponics site for a LOT more info.
Abe Connally is the local expert here.
Abe Connally wrote:if they already have a method for holding water (ponds, raceways, etc), then you really just need to add aeration and some filtration to increase the carrying capacity of the water. Plastic/PVC is probably your best bet for tubing. You can also use poly (flexible black pipe).
DO NOT USE METAL!!! metal is bad for fish, so whatever you do, don't use metal tubing.
You could do clay/concrete raceways, but I think you'll find that the cost is more than PVC.
Tokunbo Popoola wrote:
Abe Connally wrote:if they already have a method for holding water (ponds, raceways, etc), then you really just need to add aeration and some filtration to increase the carrying capacity of the water. Plastic/PVC is probably your best bet for tubing. You can also use poly (flexible black pipe).
DO NOT USE METAL!!! metal is bad for fish, so whatever you do, don't use metal tubing.
You could do clay/concrete raceways, but I think you'll find that the cost is more than PVC.
so it's best to pull it off with a pond . they get a lot of rain at one time not as bad as some arid climates but it's like the sky dumps sometimes will that mess up the system?
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Abe Connally wrote:
Tokunbo Popoola wrote:
Abe Connally wrote:if they already have a method for holding water (ponds, raceways, etc), then you really just need to add aeration and some filtration to increase the carrying capacity of the water. Plastic/PVC is probably your best bet for tubing. You can also use poly (flexible black pipe).
DO NOT USE METAL!!! metal is bad for fish, so whatever you do, don't use metal tubing.
You could do clay/concrete raceways, but I think you'll find that the cost is more than PVC.
so it's best to pull it off with a pond . they get a lot of rain at one time not as bad as some arid climates but it's like the sky dumps sometimes will that mess up the system?
it will be cheapest to use what they have, and then add filtration and aeration to increase capacity. If you include an overflow on the ponds, then rain won't matter, and actually gives you free aerated water.
Tokunbo Popoola wrote:
thanks!!!
so i got a place for some plant life and some growing... any idea for growing beds? or maybe im not understanding the design? i think i thought more on the lines of a natural pond is what your talking about?
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Abe Connally wrote:
Tokunbo Popoola wrote:
thanks!!!
so i got a place for some plant life and some growing... any idea for growing beds? or maybe im not understanding the design? i think i thought more on the lines of a natural pond is what your talking about?
2 ponds. one for fish, one for the biolfilter (plants, etc)
You could do more like a natural pond and plant the plants around the edge and put an aerator in the middle.
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