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Notes on how to build a salad bar for Chickens

 
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Notes on how to build a salad bar for Chickens:

Why Salad Bars Usually Fail

Chickens destroy plants by scratching, digging, and overgrazing.

Their manure is “hot” (nitrogen-heavy) and burns plants.

Flat ground-level frames quickly get buried and fouled with poop…(poop is a big problem)

A Common Mistake

Flat top wire frames.

Chickens perch on them and contaminating the soil.

The Fix: Angled “Unperchable” Sprouting Frames

Frames with a smooth slanted top so chickens can’t perch.

They slide off, keeping the growing surface clean and usable….and unburied.

You are Building a Garden FIRST!

Protected garden bed:

I recommend surrounding the garden with a concrete border.

Border prevents chickens from digging in and keeps manure runoff out.

Filled with quality compost/soil.

Seven frames:

One frame for each day of the week, rotated daily.

NOTE: Each frame is enclosed on the sides so neighboring sections aren’t exposed when removing one.

Fodder choices:

I've tested mung beans, barley, corn, and mixed forage.

All sprout well; variety keeps chickens interested.

Daily routine:

Soak fodder overnight.

In the morning, seed the previously eaten section, cover it with a frame, and uncover the day’s fresh frame.

Repeat daily; only real task is remembering to soak new fodder each night.

How It Fits In

Supplement, not replacement: Chickens still get normal feed. The salad bar boosts protein, vitamins, minerals, and digestibility.

Seasonal use: Best in warm weather, but cold frames extend into spring/fall.

If you need more details here is a video:

 
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Larry Fletcher wrote: Flat ground-level frames quickly get buried and fouled with poop…(poop is a big problem)


This is so true, and the reason I gave up on the flat system. I did have hardware cloth on the top to keep the birds from digging up the roots until I was ready for them to, but generally they'd smothered the plants with their bedding before the seeds got any chance to grow.

A few questions (haven't watched the vid yet):
1. How many square feet is each daily unit?
2. How many chickens have access to it?
3. Did you consider hinging it at the top so you just had to tip the lid up and hook it to the fence?
4. Are you replanting on a daily basis, the one they just used?

Birds digging along the edge of their runs and undermining the fencing has also been an issue for me. These frames do double duty by keeping the girls from damaging their protective fencing.
 
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[quote=Jay Angler
1. How many square feet is each daily unit?
2. How many chickens have access to it?
3. Did you consider hinging it at the top so you just had to tip the lid up and hook it to the fence?
4. Are you replanting on a daily basis, the one they just used?


1. Whole system is 2'x18'
2. 13
3. Each "bay' needs to prevent access to the bays on either side, so I didn't see any benefit. The form factor would be the same either way but hinged would require a lot more hardware and materials.
4. Yep
 
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Larry I watched your video on YouTube, and thought it was great. Ever since I watched your video I have been trying to figure out a less expensive version. I haven't come up with anything yet. I thought about chicken wire, but the chickens will perch it. I will figure it out eventually.
I love your system , thanks for sharing.
 
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