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help with mystery plants ID, please?

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I usually recognize most weeds and plants around our place even if i don't know the names for them....these two have me stumped. I planted a few new (to me) things this year and I think at least the first one must be one of those....is it nettles? if so it doesn't sting yet....it is only found in with my pole beans so it looks like I planted it...

i thought it might be epazote but it doesn't look at all like the pictures....I tend to sow mixes and not write down what was in them, just wait to recognize.
The second plant just popped up with a flat of natural dye plants and I don't recognize it as any of them....interesting leaves though and kind of familiar...

thanks for any help.

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The first plant is growing so thick that I need to at least thin or cut out completely if I find it is inedible....no sign of a flower yet.

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Picture 1 looks like some type of nettle. Not stinging nettle, but there are many varieties.
There are also a few members of the mint family that look similar.
What shape is the stem? Round or square?
Does it have a strong odor when crushed, or does it smell light and sweet (like cut grass)?

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arkryal vlatro wrote:Picture 1 looks like some type of nettle. Not stinging nettle, but there are many varieties.
There are also a few members of the mint family that look similar.
What shape is the stem? Round or square?
Does it have a strong odor when crushed, or does it smell light and sweet (like cut grass)?

Thank you, Arkryal....
I just went out and got a fresh plant....round stem.....and definitely more of a strong odor when crushed...not 'edible' smelling.
i am beginning to wonder if this is the seed someone shared with me that they said was stinging nettles...it looks like I planted it and I don't see it any place else in the garden. I think I am about ready to do some 'chop and drop'.

I just noticed on these that they are just beginning to send up flower buds...I'll leave some to bloom for sure.

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I think I have figured out the first plant....once they started flowering I am pretty sure I recognize the plant as seseme. I had planted some last year and thought that the seed heads hadn't matured. It was part of my chop and drop for that area and evidently FULL of seed. I guess I'll leave some of it...It gets pretty tall though and is already crowding the beans, peppers, basil, cucumbers, strawberries, cosmos and more in that area. . NOT SESEME

I suppose this is why folks keep records

here are two pictures of the flowers.

the second plant in my first post is still a mystery! maybe it will turn out to be a thistle.

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Denis Huel

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Plant No. 2 looks very mustard like.

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Denis Huel wrote:Plant No. 2 looks very mustard like.

thanks Denis...the second plant doesn't look much different since I took the picture. i suppose when it flowers it will be clearer what it is. i think I would recognize mustard flowers.

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Remembering my Southern weeds, I'd call the first one as Acalypha, and the second as a Salvia. the second one should shoot up a stem out of the rosette with purple lobed flowers if I'm right....

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thank you Alder ( ten years later😏)
We still have this plant showing up in the big garden...it moved with us I guess?
I'm not sure https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acalypha_indica
is it without checking on some things when it's growing again this summer but it gives us a place to begin.

Yes, to the salvia ID!

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