Help to kick starting natural farm in Slovenia

Did you contact them as Stephen Nakar - do you use the same name on FB?

No. Different. But it’s the latest posting in that thread in English :)

Crt Jakhel wrote:Did you contact them as Stephen Nakar - do you use the same name on FB?

What do think of this one?

http://oglasi.svet24.si/oglas/nepremicnine/stavbno-zemljisce-parcela/mesano-zemljisce-728-m2-stavbnega-v-dolic/18.L58TZ

Crt Jakhel wrote:If you check the seller's agent in the ad -- you'll see that it's the Nepremicnine SV guy that I've mentioned originally in this thread.

I very much suggest you contact him and present your wishes ... He's been around for a long time and knows the area well, I'm sure he can come up with good candidates for you.

Yes, that's a nice part of Goričko.

Note that if you're just buying land - only the land, no old house on it - then you need to jump through many legal and procedural hoops from zero to a finished house that you are legally allowed to live in. Buying an old house that already has electricity, water, sewage and a house number makes things easier.

Can't really get a feeling of what the land is like since there's so much of it and I don't know how the pics relate to one another. Check for wet spots. Check for illegal waste dumping (old household machines, even small cars, building waste materials...) - 4 acres of un-cultivated land can be attractive in that way.

The ad says that there USED to be a house number allocated here - my suggestion would be to check with the local authorities, or maybe simply a land surveyor, about whether this is easily re-usable or would the process of obtaining one start anew.

The water source mentioned sounds very good but should really be explored further as to how reliable it is over the year and what the water is like.

If all is well then the price is OK - it's not a huge bargain (that would be like 25-35% lower) but it seems at a mid-low point of what I would consider a normal range for this location and state of the land.

Stephen, something a bit different now -- this doesn't really include buying land but some of the opportunities offered could possibly develop into something interesting for you.

I hope the link works for you. If not, the site is workaway.info and then you select Europe and Slovenia. You'll get several pages of hits and the variety of offers is quite good.

As I understand it you're not into large amounts of people which I can entirely relate to; there are offers displayed which are OK in this regard. You'll also notice that several are people from abroad who settled in Slovenia so maybe that would be a good match as well.

https://www.workaway.info/en/hostlist?showMoreOptions=0&ct=europe&country=SI&search=&lang=en&workawayer_capacity=0&min_stay=&host_rating=0&date_start=&date_end=

Here is a small selection of offers that caught my eye -

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/628186648467

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/948846456841

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/465886878223

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/314899822368

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/311346618734

Thanks for the info. Just saw this.

Are you at your land now in prekmurje? I can come for a visit. I have tomorrow or Friday available. On Saturday I leave the area for a while.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Stephen, something a bit different now -- this doesn't really include buying land but some of the opportunities offered could possibly develop into something interesting for you.

I hope the link works for you. If not, the site is workaway.info and then you select Europe and Slovenia. You'll get several pages of hits and the variety of offers is quite good.

As I understand it you're not into large amounts of people which I can entirely relate to; there are offers displayed which are OK in this regard. You'll also notice that several are people from abroad who settled in Slovenia so maybe that would be a good match as well.

https://www.workaway.info/en/hostlist?showMoreOptions=0&ct=europe&country=SI&search=&lang=en&workawayer_capacity=0&min_stay=&host_rating=0&date_start=&date_end=

Here is a small selection of offers that caught my eye -

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/628186648467

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/948846456841

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/465886878223

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/314899822368

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/311346618734

Yes, I'm here. Sending you a PM.

The interesting locations are lokovecs and haloze hills. Looks good around there. Lokovecs very close to the sea.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Stephen, something a bit different now -- this doesn't really include buying land but some of the opportunities offered could possibly develop into something interesting for you.

I hope the link works for you. If not, the site is workaway.info and then you select Europe and Slovenia. You'll get several pages of hits and the variety of offers is quite good.

As I understand it you're not into large amounts of people which I can entirely relate to; there are offers displayed which are OK in this regard. You'll also notice that several are people from abroad who settled in Slovenia so maybe that would be a good match as well.

https://www.workaway.info/en/hostlist?showMoreOptions=0&ct=europe&country=SI&search=&lang=en&workawayer_capacity=0&min_stay=&host_rating=0&date_start=&date_end=

Here is a small selection of offers that caught my eye -

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/628186648467

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/948846456841

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/465886878223

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/314899822368

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/311346618734

I’d like to know how they found a property to buy in haloze of 7 hectares.

https://www.workaway.info/en/host/261348156138

5 ha
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/ptuj-haloze-kmetija-posest_5896623/

4,6 ha -nice price
http://oglasi.svet24.si/oglas/nepremicnine/kmetije/stara-kmetija-s-46-ha-zemljisca-v-belavsku/19.QMB9P

Also
https://ptujinfo.com/novica/lokalno/hisko-v-halozah-je-mogoce-kupiti-ze-za-petnajst-tisocakov/91956

The 2nd one looks amazing. If the house has renovation potential it sounds good. Can you call the guy for me? I would like to go see it. Thanks.

Crt Jakhel wrote:5 ha
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/ptuj-haloze-kmetija-posest_5896623/

4,6 ha -nice price
http://oglasi.svet24.si/oglas/nepremicnine/kmetije/stara-kmetija-s-46-ha-zemljisca-v-belavsku/19.QMB9P

Also
https://ptujinfo.com/novica/lokalno/hisko-v-halozah-je-mogoce-kupiti-ze-za-petnajst-tisocakov/91956

It's an agency ad -- the agent in charge isn't reachable at the moment. But they told me that the ad appears to still be active and that they'll call me back for a possible viewing tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

Ok. Thanks.

Can’t stand realtors. Better I go and just talk to all the people that live there.

Crt Jakhel wrote:It's an agency ad -- the agent in charge isn't reachable at the moment. But they told me that the ad appears to still be active and that they'll call me back for a possible viewing tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

Well, I didn’t like Belavšek at all. Houses have no land and big sloping hills down from house area. The drive there wasn’t too nice either.

Then I went to strmec pri leskovci. Even bigger slopes and some babushka eying me down

Then I went to podlehnik. That was a little better.

Looks like I need a property without these big slopes.

Crt Jakhel wrote:It's an agency ad -- the agent in charge isn't reachable at the moment. But they told me that the ad appears to still be active and that they'll call me back for a possible viewing tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

Oh, you were already there?

I just had a call from the realtor ... She says the house number is still there (big plus) but there's no running water and toilet in the house - the house is like it's been in the old times.

So this is not for you? I should call her back and tell her it's off?

That's Haloze for you -- small hills but serious slopes.

Better tell her I need a property with flatter land around the house. Maybe she has something like that? Thanks.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Oh, you were already there?

I just had a call from the realtor ... She says the house number is still there (big plus) but there's no running water and toilet in the house - the house is like it's been in the old times.

So this is not for you? I should call her back and tell her it's off?

That's Haloze for you -- small hills but serious slopes.

I’m in dornava now.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Oh, you were already there?

I just had a call from the realtor ... She says the house number is still there (big plus) but there's no running water and toilet in the house - the house is like it's been in the old times.

So this is not for you? I should call her back and tell her it's off?

That's Haloze for you -- small hills but serious slopes.

Apparently this used to be an army outpost. But it has some land, a nice price and seems to stand a bit apart from other houses.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/kobilje-hisa_6272023/

This one is a bit remote as well and a very friendly price. I think I got lost here while biking once upon a time. NOTE: mentions the option to rent. Individual seller.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/ljutomer-rincetova-graba-hisa_6184707/

This one seems quite remote - beware, this is a place called Trdkova and NOT really Trdkova street in Murska Sobota
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/murska-sobota-kuzma-trdkova-ulica-hisa_5849168/

Another one in Trdkova, way low price but a small piece of land
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/trdkova-hisa_6242368/

This is a good location and there is an extensive orchard with an eco certificate.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/selo-hisa_6300648/

And a special one -- mobile house on a large estate
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/dolenci-lepa-mirna-lokacija-hisa_6208610/

The one for 32k eur which is 1.5 hectares is interesting. Looks like southern exposure, on a nice hill, slope is not bad. Not too expensive but existing house structures look rough. I’d like to see this one. It’s got water and electric so that’s good. I wonder where this is in google maps.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Apparently this used to be an army outpost. But it has some land, a nice price and seems to stand a bit apart from other houses.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/kobilje-hisa_6272023/

This one is a bit remote as well and a very friendly price. I think I got lost here while biking once upon a time. NOTE: mentions the option to rent. Individual seller.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/ljutomer-rincetova-graba-hisa_6184707/

This one seems quite remote - beware, this is a place called Trdkova and NOT really Trdkova street in Murska Sobota
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/murska-sobota-kuzma-trdkova-ulica-hisa_5849168/

Another one in Trdkova, way low price but a small piece of land
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/trdkova-hisa_6242368/

This is a good location and there is an extensive orchard with an eco certificate.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/selo-hisa_6300648/

And a special one -- mobile house on a large estate
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/dolenci-lepa-mirna-lokacija-hisa_6208610/

The celo one for 60k eur is nice. But I would love it without the house and high price.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Apparently this used to be an army outpost. But it has some land, a nice price and seems to stand a bit apart from other houses.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/kobilje-hisa_6272023/

This one is a bit remote as well and a very friendly price. I think I got lost here while biking once upon a time. NOTE: mentions the option to rent. Individual seller.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/ljutomer-rincetova-graba-hisa_6184707/

This one seems quite remote - beware, this is a place called Trdkova and NOT really Trdkova street in Murska Sobota
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/murska-sobota-kuzma-trdkova-ulica-hisa_5849168/

Another one in Trdkova, way low price but a small piece of land
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/trdkova-hisa_6242368/

This is a good location and there is an extensive orchard with an eco certificate.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/selo-hisa_6300648/

And a special one -- mobile house on a large estate
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/dolenci-lepa-mirna-lokacija-hisa_6208610/

The mobile house property in dolenci is nice. Like a tiny home. I would love the 2 hectares but they can keep the house :) I would rather build my own design and put the money into that than take someone else’s house and design.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Apparently this used to be an army outpost. But it has some land, a nice price and seems to stand a bit apart from other houses.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/kobilje-hisa_6272023/

This one is a bit remote as well and a very friendly price. I think I got lost here while biking once upon a time. NOTE: mentions the option to rent. Individual seller.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/ljutomer-rincetova-graba-hisa_6184707/

This one seems quite remote - beware, this is a place called Trdkova and NOT really Trdkova street in Murska Sobota
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/murska-sobota-kuzma-trdkova-ulica-hisa_5849168/

Another one in Trdkova, way low price but a small piece of land
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/trdkova-hisa_6242368/

This is a good location and there is an extensive orchard with an eco certificate.
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/selo-hisa_6300648/

And a special one -- mobile house on a large estate
https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/dolenci-lepa-mirna-lokacija-hisa_6208610/

I’m leaving Saturday morning from the place I’m in. Do you know if anything available for rent in Murska sobota area I can rent by the week or month?

Trdkova is up north in Goričko, near the triple border point Austria / Hungary / Slovenia.

Low rolling hills. Some locations may surprise with being in a steep valley but from the photos I wouldn't say this is the case here.

OK, I talked to the seller.

It's an individual seller. A fellow cancer patient so we talked for a while.

This house was held by an old lady and upon her death was bought by the municipality which then solid it to the current owner.

The house number is still on, I have the address, Trdkova 99. Phone line, water mains, electricity - but sewage is by an individual pit. There ia a cellar.

There's a neighbor apparently with some free range pigs (mangalitsa - wooly pig, very cool animals) and then the road ends.

The property is tehcnically outside of the Goričko national park which simplifies the transaction somewhat.

The house could possibly be habitable but the roof needs fixing. We can go and visit tomorrow if you'd like and see what's what as it sounds quite promising.

The seller is based in Ljubljana and is a retired real estate agent. Language should not be a problem if you like the offer.

If you buy land in Prekmurje I promise to visit you by bike during the warm part of the year

This sounds good. Trdkova 99 Is the address? Which property link is this?

Crt Jakhel wrote:Trdkova is up north in Goričko, near the triple border point Austria / Hungary / Slovenia.

Low rolling hills. Some locations may surprise with being in a steep valley but from the photos I wouldn't say this is the case here.

OK, I talked to the seller.

It's an individual seller. A fellow cancer patient so we talked for a while.

This house was held by an old lady and upon her death was bought by the municipality which then solid it to the current owner.

The house number is still on, I have the address, Trdkova 99. Phone line, water mains, electricity - but sewage is by an individual pit. There ia a cellar.

There's a neighbor apparently with some free range pigs (mangalitsa - wooly pig, very cool animals) and then the road ends.

The property is tehcnically outside of the Goričko national park which simplifies the transaction somewhat.

The house could possibly be habitable but the roof needs fixing. We can go and visit tomorrow if you'd like and see what's what as it sounds quite promising.

The seller is based in Ljubljana and is a retired real estate agent. Language should not be a problem if you like the offer.

If you buy land in Prekmurje I promise to visit you by bike during the warm part of the year

Stephen Nakar wrote:This sounds good. Trdkova 99 Is the address? Which property link is this?

The one on 1,5 ha for 32 K as you requested.

https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/murska-sobota-kuzma-trdkova-ulica-hisa_5849168/

I love those mangalitsa pigs. Let’s go see it.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Trdkova is up north in Goričko, near the triple border point Austria / Hungary / Slovenia.

Low rolling hills. Some locations may surprise with being in a steep valley but from the photos I wouldn't say this is the case here.

OK, I talked to the seller.

It's an individual seller. A fellow cancer patient so we talked for a while.

This house was held by an old lady and upon her death was bought by the municipality which then solid it to the current owner.

The house number is still on, I have the address, Trdkova 99. Phone line, water mains, electricity - but sewage is by an individual pit. There ia a cellar.

There's a neighbor apparently with some free range pigs (mangalitsa - wooly pig, very cool animals) and then the road ends.

The property is tehcnically outside of the Goričko national park which simplifies the transaction somewhat.

The house could possibly be habitable but the roof needs fixing. We can go and visit tomorrow if you'd like and see what's what as it sounds quite promising.

The seller is based in Ljubljana and is a retired real estate agent. Language should not be a problem if you like the offer.

If you buy land in Prekmurje I promise to visit you by bike during the warm part of the year

Trdkova 99 is not the Trdkova link you sent before. That one was 70 I think.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Trdkova is up north in Goričko, near the triple border point Austria / Hungary / Slovenia.

Low rolling hills. Some locations may surprise with being in a steep valley but from the photos I wouldn't say this is the case here.

OK, I talked to the seller.

It's an individual seller. A fellow cancer patient so we talked for a while.

This house was held by an old lady and upon her death was bought by the municipality which then solid it to the current owner.

The house number is still on, I have the address, Trdkova 99. Phone line, water mains, electricity - but sewage is by an individual pit. There ia a cellar.

There's a neighbor apparently with some free range pigs (mangalitsa - wooly pig, very cool animals) and then the road ends.

The property is tehcnically outside of the Goričko national park which simplifies the transaction somewhat.

The house could possibly be habitable but the roof needs fixing. We can go and visit tomorrow if you'd like and see what's what as it sounds quite promising.

The seller is based in Ljubljana and is a retired real estate agent. Language should not be a problem if you like the offer.

If you buy land in Prekmurje I promise to visit you by bike during the warm part of the year

Ok. Great. What price do you think he will sell it for? Is this property the entire piece between the house and forest?

Crt Jakhel wrote:

Stephen Nakar wrote:This sounds good. Trdkova 99 Is the address? Which property link is this?

The one on 1,5 ha for 32 K as you requested.

https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/murska-sobota-kuzma-trdkova-ulica-hisa_5849168/

Na

Stephen Nakar wrote:Ok. Great. What price do you think he will sell it for? Is this property the entire piece between the house and forest?

1,5 ha + 2500 m2 of a field planted with herbs is thrown in as a bonus.

32.000 is the advertised price but she said (it's a lady) that's still open to negotiation.

For my eyes even if it were fixed at 32 it would still be a very good offer unless the house is completely useless. But I believe a round 30 should be achievable.

I'm not sure I'm able to give you a link to the exact item in the online cadaster (Portal prostor).

I have the cadaster scans on my mobile, we'll take a look tomorrow.

So they have the wrong address in the webpage? That’s interesting. 99 is better location than 70.

Can you send me the link of this in the cadaster map for Trdkova 99?

It should show the property boundaries. Thanks.

Crt Jakhel wrote:Trdkova is up north in Goričko, near the triple border point Austria / Hungary / Slovenia.

Low rolling hills. Some locations may surprise with being in a steep valley but from the photos I wouldn't say this is the case here.

OK, I talked to the seller.

It's an individual seller. A fellow cancer patient so we talked for a while.

This house was held by an old lady and upon her death was bought by the municipality which then solid it to the current owner.

The house number is still on, I have the address, Trdkova 99. Phone line, water mains, electricity - but sewage is by an individual pit. There ia a cellar.

There's a neighbor apparently with some free range pigs (mangalitsa - wooly pig, very cool animals) and then the road ends.

The property is tehcnically outside of the Goričko national park which simplifies the transaction somewhat.

The house could possibly be habitable but the roof needs fixing. We can go and visit tomorrow if you'd like and see what's what as it sounds quite promising.

The seller is based in Ljubljana and is a retired real estate agent. Language should not be a problem if you like the offer.

If you buy land in Prekmurje I promise to visit you by bike during the warm part of the year

That "70" in the ad refres to the m2 of the house itself (minus the cellar and the various additional structures), not the house number.

The location has nothing to do with Murska Sobota -- Trdkova is cca 30 km away. (For this reason this ad might also be interesting - https://www.nepremicnine.net/oglasi-prodaja/ljutomer-rincetova-graba-hisa_6184707/ - since it matches your criteria but is much closer to a small city which can be practical.)

I don't think I can give you the link to the cadaster - at least not to the one that is known to me (Portal prostor) as the URL doesn't seem to change with the location. I have the cadaster maps the lady sent on my mobile and we'll have a look tomorrow.

Off now to read & sleep.

In morska sobota now. Checking it out. At some net.caffe. Wonder what kind of town this is.

About 20.000 people. Regional center, probablythe smallest "complete" town in Slovenia in the sense that it even has a hospital.

Try these guys: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g274875-d10804819-Reviews-Bunker-Murska_Sobota_Prekmurje_Region.html

Ok. Thanks.

I should be over shortly. Just finished driving around the hills. Went to vaneci then drove all around and back.

Crt Jakhel wrote:About 20.000 people. Regional center, probablythe smallest "complete" town in Slovenia in the sense that it even has a hospital.

Try these guys: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g274875-d10804819-Reviews-Bunker-Murska_Sobota_Prekmurje_Region.html

Hello,

I think I’m in front of your house. #14