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Thermal mass on existing drywall??

 
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HI

I have just purchased an existing house and would like to install a thermal mass heater (rocket stove) in the living room. I wanted to run the cob bench along the existing wall (classic 2x4 and drywall) and was wondering if there would be a fire danger? if so are there any strategies to insulating this existing area from heat?

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Brian : Have you been to Rocketstoves.com to download Your PDF Copy of the Brand New 3rd Edition of Rocket Mass Heaters ? The first thing is you

are trying to retro-fit a Rocket Mass Heater RMH, into an existing structure this always means compromises and careful planning followed by more compromises as

you discover other problems !

Besides the Wall exposures you also have the Heat load on the Floors and floor joists and the total weight of your RMH Burner base and the Thermal mass bench,

close to 5000 pounds or a large car !


You can start off by giving us a near location and some climate information, remembering that this is a space heater and that most houses are not laid out to take
advantage of the full potential of a RMHs best features what is the sq. ft. of the core of your home you would like to heat ?!

For the good of the craft ! Big AL
 
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Brian : First a warning, Please be very skeptical of anything you see on Youtube.com unless you were sent there by someone you trust! There is huge Boatload of
steaming, stinking, CRAP 💩 we call 'flaming units of death', passing themselves of as Rocket Mass Heaters RMHs Cavat` Emptor !!!

Here I have selected a series of short video clips, approximate 3/8ths of an upscale RMH Build, available for viewing ( and Purchase)of a professionally shot DVD

IT does not cover bracing-up the floor, but the viewing this is eye candy and gives you a good overview of how to deal with protecting exposures !

Please Click on :::-->

http://www.youtube.com/user/villagevideoorg/playlists

At the next page select the playlist Rocket Mass Heater Scenes to play the whole series in order ! kick back, relax, and enjoy !
 
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Hi Brian...as you get into this you will learn more and more...for now...really heed Allen's last post...As a professional natural-traditional design-builder...his advice on being careful what you take as "good information" especially on "boob tube" is really important....

Good Luck,

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Hi thank you for the replies

I live at the foothills of the western slope of the rockies mild winters for the most part but it gets cold (is snowing now..). The picture shown is the bottom floor, and concrete foundation and would be able to support the new mass. The room to be heated is somewhat of a glorified loft a-frame. about 7000csf of space. i am mostly worried about the proper insulation for the existing structure cob/drywall juncture as to not burn it down..

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Ill be watching those videos thank you!
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