I've used 5% acetic acid (vinegar) as a herbicide for probably longer than this
thread has been up, but not much more than that. I am speaking of 5% cider (clear) vinegar unless mentioned otherwise. You need a small amount of dish detergent so that the vinegar will wet plants. It will only burn what it can wet. I suspect waxy leaves will not be burned.
It only burns what it comes in contact with. The vinegar doesn't get into the roots, so the plant may be able to recover from being burned. The decomposition products are largely
carbon dioxide and
water. Last year, I was able to get 4 litre jugs for quite a bit less than $2 (CDN). This year, it is $1.99 or $1.97. And there is no reason for this. A world
Class acetic acid faciity in China will deliver acetic acid to the dock for $0.10 per litre (I could be misunderstanding this). This is the "chemical" acetic acid produced probably from methanol. It is only the product of bacterial fermentation that
should be called vinegar. The "chemical" acetic acid is all we need for herbicide use.
It burns many plants. Some it burns white-ish, some it burns yellow-ish and some black-ish. Alfalfa doesn't seem to be bothered by it. I don't thin thistle was, but I could be wrong on that. It doesn't seem to bother juniper. There are some
trees which get burned by vinegar, I don't have a list. I know about juniper because I have grass overgrowing a juniper.
I once bought a jug of 20% acetic acid, and it was much more effective.
At one time I ran across a study from the NE continental USA about the use of acetic acid for weed control. Among other things, they compared it to flames. Massachusetts?
I think the most cost effective way to get higher acetic acid contents, is controlled freezing. The acetic acid tends to be rejected to the liquid, giving more and more concentrated acetic acid. As acetic acid is volatile, the lower temperatures help control evaporation losses.
There are industrial processes which are producing almost 100% acetic acid. An oil patch chemicals company in Grande Prairie, was bringing in those 1300 pound tote bags (or something like that) of 53% acetic acid. I don't know what they use it for.
I believe anything stronger than 11% acetic acid must be treated as a hazardous chemical, and it will burn human skin at that point.
To buy strong acetic acid (more than 11%), and dilute it to some other concentration is not trivial. There is a significant heat of mixing involved. Concentrated acetic acid is flammable, and might possibly be explosive under some conditions.
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Last year, I had too many apples (same situation this year) on one tree, and so I took about half the apples off when green (and fairly large). I had 10 gallons of apples. At this stage, there was very little sugar in the apples, but there was considerable malic acid (a dicarboxylic acid) present. I had to add sugar so that yeast would have something to ferment to EtOH. I know that I did ferment sugar to EtOH (and then the natural acetobacter on the apples fermented EtOH to acetic acid) as I have a considerable amount of "mother" now. A 5% acetic acid solution, should have a pH of 3. The "malic vinegar" I made, had a pH between 3.1 and 3. Pretty close to ordinary vinegar.
I mixed some of this with a touch of dish soap, and went spraying weeds. There are some things which seem to be killed about the same as ordinary vinegar, but by and large most things seemed to be less affected by the malic vinegar than by ordinary vinegar. It does not appear that making herbicide from green apples is cost effective.
I will try to redo the malic vinegar in a food safe way, to see how it compares to ordinary
apple cider vinegar as a food.
Hopefully in the not too distant future, I will have
honey locust pods on the farm. I believe they tend to have just slightly more sugar than sugar beets. It might be possible to make vinegar from them. As I understand things, if cows or horses eat honey locust pods, the seeds are not digested and will probably be viable to germinate in the manure (as nature wants for many seeds). If sheep or goats eat the pods, apparently they digest everything, and hence we don't get honey locusts growing in their manure. For me, if I have honey locust with cows, I want to collect the pods so they don't eat them. But if I have sheep or goats, I wouldn't mind them eating the pods.