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Of course, this study is from Germany. Their health care system protects people. Ours protects profit-making corporations,instead of the people. Since they can't patent a fungi, this research will never come out of the US, and we will probably never use it in the profit driven hospital system. Many rich people in the US fly to Germany to get proper cancer care, because the FDA bans it here if it doesn't make enough profit for the hospital system.
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Many people also go to Germany for completely non scientific things like bathing in various fountains of youth, homeopathy and New German Medicine. There's a strong anti-Semitic vein to that last one.

I don't claim any knowledge concerning the mushroom.
 
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I don't know anything about "The New German Medicine". How is it anti-Semitic?
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One of the chief claims of it's founder was that Jewish doctors were purposely withholding cures. I won't go further and give him a platform here. Mr. Google has answers.

I find that a large amount of quackery comes from Germany and the surrounding area. It's a driver of tourism. One woman who I know, spent $30,000 on a fake cure.
 
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Is "The New German Medicine" an organization? I don't support anti-semitism, but that's a completely separate topic than people being cured by mushrooms and herbs. That's unfortunate.

In CHina, Japan, and Germany, research is done on herbs and mushrooms, which find cancer and other disease fighting properties. Their health systems are run for the health of the people. In the US system, the FDA puts doctors in jail who use those, but they push chemotherapy, which kills 97% of its patients, because of the guaranteed huge profits that they control. They can't control plants and mushrooms. The alternatives are 70-90 % effective. That's profit-driven murder and quackery.

Some people believe that it is not possible for herbs and mushrooms to heal people. The evidence is that some of them, in very specific ways and protocols, work quite effectively. However, since studies in the US are funded by big pharma, no one will fund the studies, and the doctors only know about big pharma, unless they go out of their way to find out about it outside of medical school. Since doctors tend to have very little free time, the system is essentially controlled by Big Pharma. That is marketing, not science.
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"New German Medicine" is a particular program that is patented. It involves a certain philosophy and emotional approach to medicine. That's not what I was talking about at all.

I was just talking about medicine in Germany. In other countries as well, the government will do inexpensive things to help people be healthy that never get funded here, which is why we have by far the most expensive health care system and an ineffective one, but it does seem to start to be opening up to some non-rich people.

Perhaps this mushroom protocol will be developed and it will save some people from cancer. Even if it's effective, it is almost impossible for me to imagine that the AMA would allow a less expensive, though effective cure to be used.
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Like a guided missile, the antibody carries its poisonous load to target cancer cells.


I only skimmed it but I had wondered if it killed cancer cells the same way chemo does, but no. A guided missile sounds better than a shot gun blast of chemo which kills everything including normal cells, and then puts lots of radiation into the environment.
 
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John Saltveit wrote:Perhaps this mushroom protocol will be developed and it will save some people from cancer. Even if it's effective, it is almost impossible for me to imagine that the AMA would allow a less expensive, though effective cure to be used.


Who says this is going to be inexpensive? If they are using antibodies for targeting it is quite possible that the medication would have to be custom made for each patient...in other words, this treatment could end up being ridiculously expensive.
 
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We don't know. I said if.
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We seem to be headed for custom made, personalized medicine. Even so, it's hard to imagine that a mushroom based medicine could be any where near as expensive as a chemo base one. The precautions on chemo alone should skew it towards the mushrooms but then the lower the cost the lower the profits.
 
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Cj Verde wrote:We seem to be headed for custom made, personalized medicine. Even so, it's hard to imagine that a mushroom based medicine could be any where near as expensive as a chemo base one. The precautions on chemo alone should skew it towards the mushrooms but then the lower the cost the lower the profits.

One of the big chemotherapy drugs today is Paclitaxel, which comes from a yew tree. Perhaps a mushroom based treatment would be less pricey that yew tree based medicine, but I'm not counting on it.
 
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Hmmm. I was assuming it wouldn't be chemo based after skimming the article.
 
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