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in order for a thermoelectric generator to work you need hot and cold! like a small 5w one connected to a wood stove with a lil cpu fan cooling it. i wanted to do a experiment where i drill a rod into the permafrost here in alaska and have the other end of the rod enter the thermal mass if the RMH to produce some electricity! thermal electric generators are affordable and can be used to charge deep cell battery banks! if thats possible imagine running some computers or even some application specific integrated curcuits for a global permaculture community based on cryptographic barter system governed by complex math completly independant from finacial institutions while still being able to finction within a governed system? do you follow or am i just way into computers than most people here? btw i was a early bitcoin adopter!
 
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How many watts are you hoping to extract from this system?
 
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well you would need at least 980 watts and 32 amps for a decents gameing computer! that can be used to start creating the blocks of encryption! then other people around the world would have to implement it to create more nodes in the system! it would be a hybrid called CRYPTO PERMACULTURE i would use a x11 algo so that the difficulty could adjust! we would want people to use less wattage if possible! its basically a Rocket mass heater that can charge a battery bank! but that battery bank could be charged with solsr or wind to but here in alaska during the winter it would he better for me to use thermoelectric generators as i could use the cold to my advantage and cool the computers! the computers give if quite a bit if heat when solving transaction in a blockchain.
 
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To understand how thermoelectrics generate the electricity from a temperature difference we have to know a bit about how electrons move in a metal. Metals are good conductors because electrons can move freely within them, similar to a fluid in a pipe. Imagine you have a pipe full of water and you raise one end, what happens? The water will flow down the pipe from the high end to the low end. This is because when you raised the pipe you increased the potential energy and the water wants to flow downhill. In a thermoelectric material the same thing happens to the fluid-like electrons when you heat it! so half of the HOMEMADE thermoelecrtic generator needs to be cold and yhe ither half can go into your thermal mass battery or in the flu or anywhere theres heat! this would be grest in colder arctic placed were in the summer we have permanently frozen ground! we also have sunlight at 3 am so solar is no problem there! but in the winter when the RMH is roaring how do we produce green energy? ill keep you all up to date but i want to give this a shot snd see uf i can generate enough power to start a node if anyone else wants to try please post homemade thermoelectric generators here this could be a lot of fun and a cheap way to get some watts for lights or fridge or whatever but im going to aim high and try to run some complex powerful computers
 
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It looks like others have the same idea.
Here is a link that shows a unit developing 9 watts of net energy from parts that were bought on eBay.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQtwIwAWoVChMIqZGs2Zf-xwIVilGSCh3OKgRF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3j3LzxLbrlA&usg=AFQjCNHeYicKlsmyhGDXi94Btgrsb2HxwQ

Here is another from someone working to get a marketable system.
http://www.adn.com/article/presto-alaska-inventor-turns-wood-stove-heat-electricity
 
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This is a working prototype, even this 7 minute video is top heavy with information, but a working model is more than I expected at this time !

Link below :

https://permies.com/t/49928/solar/game-changer-Tamera-Sunpulse-stirling


If you are seriously interested here is a good place to mine for more information !

https://permies.com/t/49928/solar/game-changer-Tamera-Sunpulse-stirling

For the good of the crafts ! Big AL
 
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thanks ill add my own to a rocket mass heater in alaska to charge a battery bank and post the results here ill buy some stuff im looking for 80w generator to charge a battery bank so i could run some lights and a small computer while the stove not running
 
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Deagen Demientieff wrote:thanks ill add my own to a rocket mass heater in alaska to charge a battery bank and post the results here ill buy some stuff im looking for 80w generator to charge a battery bank so i could run some lights and a small computer while the stove not running


Thanks, please post where you source out your components and your successes and failures along the way.
I may want to give this a try also.
 
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