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I put down broadcast clover seeds that were really thick shells, I didn't scarify them. It's been a week and I don't see any germination. Now it could just be that they need more time, but I think i made a mistake putting down such thick seeds with no scarification. Might try spraying some boiling water. Anyone got any ideas as to how i can best handle this problem?
 
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It's never occurred to me to scarify clover; I've never done so, and never had any problems with germination of the types I've planted.

There are many types I haven't encountered, though; what type of clover was it?

Where did you get the seed? If it was commercially bought and needed scarification, I would expect it may already have been done?

I do try and soak the seed before sowing, and this definitely speeds things up, but doesn't seem critical.

Did you rake in the seed after sowing? Has there been water on them since sowing, either rain or by your intervention?
 
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Are you sure a week is long enough? I might wait a little longer before giving up. I haven't read anything about scarifying clover (just double-checked) and didn't scarify mine. You didn't specify the exact type of clover -- they are different. If giving up on the first round, I might think about seeding another kind of clover over the top and being sure to rake it lightly or something similar.
 
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It was New Zealand white clover. Pretty thick seeds, seems to me now that I should've done it. it hasn't rained yet. We shall see. Yeah ill give them a rake if I can. It's a little dicey cause I just chiseled before putting them down. don't want to mess-up my contour lines.
 
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I have clover coming up this year I seeded last year, I don't remember it coming up last year so I believe the seed overwintered. I hope yours works out, no idea how long it might take for yours to come up.
 
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hau Cliff, The clover you planted usually takes two weeks to germinate. If you are not going to water it, then it will not germinate until there is enough moisture in the soil (rains will bring it to life).
 
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