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Wesley johnsen
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union vs non union apprenticeship? what one do you like more or have experience in? i want to be a green plumber and install green heating and cooling systems along with green plumbing stuff as well. does anyone have any experience with the united association of plumbers and pipefitters?  the united association has a 5 year apprenticeship that teaches a different topic each year such as: plumbing, pipefitting, welding, sprinkler fitting, and hvac/r. i also have options in case i do not get accepted into the union in my area for this and that is to go to college for a green hvac and plumbing degrees and then find an apprenticeship after earning the degree. does anyone have any suggestions on what way is better union or non union and have experience with the united association of plumbers? i would want to own my own my own business after the 5 year union apprenticeship as well.
William Bronson
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I went through a union electrician apprenticeship.
It promised more than it delivered, but it did make me over from a shopkeeper into an electrician.
If you can afford to,go with the schooling,get all the licensing,degrees  and certification you can,and insist on hands on training along with theory.
Do this and you will probably have job offers before you even finish school.
In some places, union membership is worthwhile because they have a virtual monopoly in the marketplace.
This is good for gainful employment,not so good for startups that are backing the trends.
You can always apprentice later,in fact you might beagle to skip years of apprenticeship due to your schooling.
Every specialty you know will make you more valuable.
For example, every electrician apprentice in my graduating class learned controls,fiber optics,and fire alarms,all in the classroom.
Those who learned these skills in the field, hands on,were able to parley that real knowledge into a careers worth of work.
I myself learned to thread pipe,and pull, important skills but not rare or highly in demand skills.
School first, then a job,union or other wise, then your own shop,union or otherwise.
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