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Anne Miller
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I tried to search for this and found no forum especially for pollinators.  We have Bugs, Critter Care, Mason Bees and honey bees.  There are so many other pollinators that don't fit those. 

Thank you for your consideration.
 
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Could I suggest a slightly larger category of 'beneficial insects'? Many of the pollinators do more than just pollinate, and many of the insects that we most want for things like pest control also pollinate.
 
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I am looking for a place for birds.  Maybe we need "Beneficial Insects" and "Birds".

I think a forum named "Endangered Species" might be too political.  Right now I am doing a lot of research on two or three birds and thought I would share. I don't want my research to be political.
 
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Would this go in critters, growies, or somewhere else?

Would you be willing to help populate it?   It looks like you have PIE superpowers, which means you can add forums to existing threads.

This isn't a promise it will happen, just trying to understand the logistics.

 
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R Ranson wrote:Would this go in critters, growies, or somewhere else?

Would you be willing to help populate it?   It looks like you have PIE superpowers, which means you can add forums to existing threads.

This isn't a promise it will happen, just trying to understand the logistics.


Thank you for the consideration.

I was thinking "Critters" but "Growies"  could work. I was thinking of "Pollinators"  because it is a important permaculture term and there have not been many posts attributed to just pollinators.  Maybe it wouldn't get much activity, I don't know.   If a bird eats a bug on a flower then goes to another flower wouldn't it be helping to pollinate?

Here is what I found on birds as pollinators:

"Birds are very important pollinators of wildflowers throughout the world. In the continental United States, hummingbirds are key in wildflower pollination. In other areas, honeycreepers (Hawaii) and honeyeaters (Australia) are important pollinators. In addition, brush-tongued parrots (New Guinea) and sunbirds (Old World tropics) serve as tropical pollen vectors.

There are 2,000 bird species globally that feed on nectar, the insects, and the spiders associated with nectar bearing flowers."

https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pollinators/animals/birds.shtml

"Ornithophily or bird pollination is the pollination of flowering plants by birds."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornithophily

I am willing to help in what ever way I can.  Unfortunately my posts on Monarch Butterflies and beneficial insects I already placed in three forums so I can't move them. 

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I think that a forum titled 'pollinators' would be a great place to include butterflies, moths, birds and bats that are pollinators.....

This makes me wonder where, at the moment, one would talk about birds that eat certain bad bugs, for example? or that pollinate?

I've sometimes thought that just 'bugs' as a forum is too broad.  Could it be 'good bugs' and 'bad bugs' ?  I suppose they overlap also though.
...and then maybe there's no such thing as a 'bad' bug?  sort of like 'invasives', they are there serving some as yet unknown purpose?

 
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I like this idea.  We have one dedicated to mason bees, why not pollinators in general?

You're totally right, there are lots of birds and other critters that pollinate, not just bugs.

I'll see what I can do.  If you don't hear back on this by the end of the week, please bump this thread up.  It's a bit of a crazy week so far.
 
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Thanks R Ranson and everyone else!  I will keep checking in throughout the week.

 
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There is also this unseen but mostly felt  pollinator, wind!
It might be better to name the new forum 'POLLINATION'. I think it covers the hole item.
Would you all give support for my question for a new forum ' wet land permaculture'?.
 
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dirk maes wrote:There is also this unseen but mostly felt  pollinator, wind!
It might be better to name the new forum 'POLLINATION'. I think it covers the hole item.
Would you all give support for my question for a new forum ' wet land permaculture'?.


I like this.

However, pollination would put it in the growies category and it would fit the plant breeding/seed saving forum.  Wouldn't it?
 
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I think a 'pollinators' forum would be a great idea. It's a topic that most people don't really think about, so making it its own forum might help to bring it to the forefront.

'Beneficials' or 'beneficial critters' might also work. That way it can also include all of the good bugs, birds and other creatures that help with not only pollination, but also pest control. Do you think that there will be enough traffic to warrant both? I'm willing to write up a few threads to get the ball rolling, whichever way you go.
 
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"Pollinators are responsible for assisting over 80% of the world's flowering plants. Without them, humans and wildlife wouldn't have much to eat or look at! Animals that assist plants in their reproduction as pollinators include species of ants, bats, bees, beetles, birds, butterflies, flies, moths, wasps, as well as other unusual animals. Wind and water also play a role in the pollination of many plants."







 
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We've created a lot of new forums recently that don't have enough content. 

So, maybe we should set up some rules for creating a new forum:

1:  there needs to be at least 20 threads that already exist on permies that could be added to the new forum.

2:  the person suggesting it will create at least three new threads that don't already exist on permies.

3:  somebody on the staff is willing to create the forum and help with shuffling threads so we don't start off with an empty forum.


I think that all three could be met pretty easily for a pollinators forum.   Somebody wanna make a list (with links) for #1?  And then a list for #2?   Do we have somebody on the staff willing to do #3?

 
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paul wheaton wrote:We've created a lot of new forums recently that don't have enough content.  So, maybe we should set up some rules for creating a new forum:

1:  there needs to be at least 20 threads that already exist on permies that could be added to the new forum.

2:  the person suggesting it will create at least three new threads that don't already exist on permies.

3:  somebody on the staff is willing to create the forum and help with shuffling threads so we don't start off with an empty forum.


I think that all three could be met pretty easily for a pollinators forum.   Somebody wanna make a list (with links) for #1?  And then a list for #2?   Do we have somebody on the staff willing to do #3?


Thank you, Paul!

#2 - I have one ready to post as soon as the forum is created.  I have two in the works ...just give me a couple of days...
#3 - I am willing to help with shuffling the thread

#1:
1. https://permies.com/t/61605/Creating-Edible-Medicinal-Garden-Butterflies
2. https://permies.com/t/59341/critters/Monarch-butterflies-caterpillars-Creating-Monarch
3. https://permies.com/t/59499/critters/Good-Caterpiller-butterfly-caterpillar
4. https://permies.com/t/61532/Building-Neotropical-Birds-classroom
5. https://permies.com/t/61461/Black-capped-Vireo-Endangered-Songbird
6. https://permies.com/t/59928/Recording-bird-song-minutes-food
7. https://permies.com/t/58189/pollinators
8. https://permies.com/t/60292/farmers-kill-weeds
9. https://permies.com/t/15002/Pesky-Pollinators
10. https://permies.com/t/11930/butterflies
11. https://permies.com/t/30095/Year-Monarch-didn
12. https://permies.com/t/37291/critters/Thoughts-White-House-Task-Force
12. https://permies.com/t/43101/critters/update-friend-Monarch-Butterlfy-video
13. https://permies.com/t/47172/critters/Pollinator-Health-Strategy
14. https://permies.com/t/57129/Bumblebee-Garden-Project-Advice
15. https://permies.com/t/57143/Creating-habitat-wildlife-discuss
16. https://permies.com/t/57010/plant-pollinated-insect
17. https://permies.com/t/47686/critters/top-plants-yard-bees
18. https://permies.com/t/9184/critters/Bats-effective-insect-control
19. https://permies.com/t/56306/Saving-endangered-species-gardens
20. https://permies.com/t/37050/role-ants
21. https://permies.com/t/47686/critters/top-plants-yard-bees
22. https://permies.com/t/13415/critters/fireants-pants
23. https://permies.com/t/38693/critters/silkworm-Buisness

I would like to find more on birds but I ran out of time.

If someone wants me to help with the shuffling let me know.
 
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paul wheaton wrote: And then a list for #2?   Do we have somebody on the staff willing to do #3?


#2:
Please Help by Sharing What You Do to Help Our Pollinators
How is Pollination Accomplished by Birds
How to Create a Habitat for Hummingbirds

Do we have somebody on the staff willing to do #3?

I have done #1 and #2 is waiting for a new forum and I am willing to do the shuffling part of #3?

"somebody on the staff is willing to create the forum"?
 
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I'm willing to try a topic on year round forage for the pollinators. I have an unfair advantage living in such a warm state, but I do put actual thought into it when I plant.
 
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It looks like the mason bees forum is already subtitled 'and other pollinators' - maybe it just needs re-naming slightly

 
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When I click on critters, and then click on mason bees, and then look in the unhighlighted section of the page (the text isn't even bold) then I do see the words 'and other pollinators' If that's supposed to be the general pollinator forum it definitely needs more prominent display.

I spend a lot of time searching on this site (for myself and to direct others) and the fewer the number of forums, the easier they are to search. If you can meet Anne's request with an existing forum, that would be great.
 
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Burra Maluca wrote:It looks like the mason bees forum is already subtitled 'and other pollinators' - maybe it just needs re-naming slightly



Can we rename the mason bee forum 'pollinators'?
 
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Can we rename the mason bee forum 'pollinators'?


Seems good to me, then maybe change the subtitle to include some examples.
 
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It's now near the top of my list of things to do.
 
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Pollinators is born - https://permies.com/f/56/pollinators

I'm very excited about this as I have questions on hummingbirds and early season pollinating of fruit trees in cold weather.

I'll move over those threads if I have a chance tomorrow - but if someone with PIE super power wanted to do it, that would be super!
 
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Thank you, Burra and R Ranson for making this happen! And thank you to Judith, Casie, Tracy and Dirk for the support.

Unfortunately, I have had a project come up that is requiring all of my time now.  I have been coming to permies each morning to give a apple to a deserving post or person, but that is about all the time I have.
 
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