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Daron Williams wrote:I'm considering something similar for my property - I have 2.86 acres and most of it is overused old pasture and hayfield. I have been planning a seed mix that includes nitrogen fixers such as clover, lupin and some native to my area (Washington state) but I'm also including some shrubs and trees plus some flowers and edible perennials. One plant I'm including after doing some research is diakon raddish. It forms a long root and if you don't harvest it the raddish will decompose over winter and help create soil.
For my place I'm planning on mulching an area each year in the spring and then broadcasting a seed mix in the fall and the following spring. I will be expanding to a new area each year and repeating the process. But you might not need to mulch first depending on the seed mix you are using and your other goals. Later I will go back through and establish fruit trees and other edibles as part of a long term food forest project.
I'm also planning on making seed balls before I broadcast the seeds. If your not familiar this involves mixing the seeds with clay and compost to form small balls. This gives the seeds some protection and since I'm planning on broadcasting into mulch it should help overall germination. It might be helpful for your site and can be done fairly quickly - I'm going to build a hand crank powered mixer using a 5 gal bucket.
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Scott Martucci wrote:Do you mow the area you are seeding? How often? I like the idea of adding clover as that would also allow me to introduce bees for a honey yield. Thanks for the info on your setup.
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Daron Williams wrote:
Scott Martucci wrote:Do you mow the area you are seeding? How often? I like the idea of adding clover as that would also allow me to introduce bees for a honey yield. Thanks for the info on your setup.
I'm going to mow it before I place the mulch but then my plan is to not mow it afterwords. My aim is to start the succession to a forest so I want it to grow up as a mix of shrubs with some scattered trees with the spaces filled with smaller plants. Overtime a low level canopy should start to fill in but it will look very much like a young forest - kinda like a savanna but without the grasses. I'm trying to mimic what the regrowth after a major disruption event would look like here in Washington. I might go over the areas with a scythe once a year to cut some of the non shrubs and trees. This would be done to encourage root growth and build up organic material to help build my soil. Some of the tree species will be coppiced and the cuttings will either be used for hugelkultur beds or just left on the ground as habitat and for soil building - same with some of the shrubs. Later on I will plant additional trees and start to shift the overall plant balance more towards taller fruiting species with fruiting shrubs around the trees and also smaller edibles in the alleys between the trees (using some of Bryant Redhawk's methods!). Since I want the forest to produce a lot of food I will be keeping it more open than a natural forest in my area would be but it should still provide good habitat and it will also be bordered by a native forest (zone 5) so I can have the best of both worlds.
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Bryant RedHawk wrote:
Definition of Savanna or Savannah: a mixed woodland grassland ecosystem characterized by the trees being sufficiently widely spaced so that the canopy does not close.
The open canopy allows sufficient light to reach the ground to support an unbroken herbaceous layer consisting primarily of grasses.
Savannas maintain an open canopy despite a high tree density. It is often believed that savannas feature widely spaced, scattered trees.
However, in many savannas, tree densities are higher and trees are more regularly spaced than in forests
You can not have a savanna without grasses of some sort, a savanna is spaced trees with grass land between and is grazed by animals.
If you want to let natural succession take hold then you need to simply leave it alone until the growth is at the point of becoming as you want to keep it, then you do disturbance to maintain that point of succession that you desire.
What you are describing here is part of succession but without grasses being present it would be a mid-stage forest prior to stem exclusion (thinning) and before canopy closure.
This is a more post savanna stage like or pre Forest stage.
Most food forests are set up for mid-stage succession and then held at that point by disturbance when required.
In Washington State, the main disturbance models are fire and flood, which means the conifers are more suited to natural succession than say hardwoods which are not as fire tolerant.
If you haven't yet, I recommend you get a copy of Restoration Agriculture by Mark Shepard, it will help you tremendously with your planning and execution of your described project.
Redhawk
Cultivate abundance for people, plants and wildlife - Growing with Nature
List of Bryant RedHawk's Epic Soil Series Threads We love visitors, that's why we live in a secluded cabin deep in the woods. "Buzzard's Roost (Asnikiye Heca) Farm." Promoting permaculture to save our planet.
Cultivate abundance for people, plants and wildlife - Growing with Nature
List of Bryant RedHawk's Epic Soil Series Threads We love visitors, that's why we live in a secluded cabin deep in the woods. "Buzzard's Roost (Asnikiye Heca) Farm." Promoting permaculture to save our planet.
Bryant RedHawk wrote:hau Scott, If you have any questions that you don't want to put into this or another thread, feel free to purple moosage them.
Redhawk
Scott Martucci wrote:. Does anyone have anythoughts on what type of mix might be good for something like this or even if this sounds like a reasonable approach.
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