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Tj Jefferson
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Now that the inevitable bribes have been taken and decisions rendered, the summer biomass Soilympics are in effect!

Opening ceremonies were last week, because the extended weather forecast looked germination fabulous and we were expecting tons of rain to get the seeds set before the birds eat them all.

Two events will be considered: biomass in disturbed soil and biomass as a broadcast. This is essentially a follow-up to the winter cover crops post. I hope some of this is transferable to those in near areas/biomes.

Soil is improved in most areas significantly from last fall with obvious increases in organic matter. Last summer worm census was easy- there weren't any in most areas. Now they are present in about 70% of the main fields, some areas with >10 in a shovelful! This summer's goal is to maintain shade on the soil and add one more hit of (mostly) annual biomass before seeding with a few perennials this fall to complete the conversion from a gnarly-looking driving range to a field succeeding into silvipasture in a year or two. I have not done any mowing since last summer, but intend to shred the vegetation in the alleys this fall on top of the winter seeds (if I add anything at all). Trees are in but they are seedlings and not contributing to shade or biomass at this point. Lil' Scrappy is treeless, since it also contains our leech field, but we don't know exactly where... It will get shrub cover this summer just not in until next week when I have time off.

Contestant name/type:
Alyceclover/Legume- better for broadcast seeding than lablab, less viney and obnoxious than Sesbania. Maybe. Cheap for a legume not called cowpeas.
Buckwheat/Taproot- pretty cheap, locally available, bird approved. I like to eat it too. Hear it is hit or miss around here.
Millet/Topgrower- Real cheap, locally available, bird approved.
Sunn Hemp/Legume- pricey but recommended and big seeded, which performed best in winter Soilympics.
Cowpeas/Legume- Didn't show up! Having trouble getting it in time to plant, usually available at FeednSeed but not this year. Crap!
Black Oil Sunflower/Topgrower- Cheap, bird approved, potential for big biomass & shade.

And they are off! Bulbs are there primarily to distract my wife from the area markings and tubes. So far so good...

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Lil' Scrappy, looking sad and ready to burn up again this summer
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Main Wannabe Silvipasture
 
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Have you considered a chicken tractor for soil disturbance and fertilizing before planting cover crop biomass? Planting tractor fuel for the return trip this fall.
 
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We considered it, but at this point I am the main (read only outdoor) labor and I work a week on week off several times a year. So having any tractor-based livestock on this schedule is a non-starter.

The idea is that eventually I can have a sheep prison for the times I am at work (which would be approx 3 acres of pretty good sheep forage) with a watering system. Then when I am not at work I can have the sheep paroled into mobile electric fence paddocks in the new silvopasture (reference the tree tubes). We are not going to max out the carrying capacity because it will be based on the sheep prison alone. If I can get accomplices in this, I may have a similar setup for poultry, but we have a big fox population so the paddocks seem unlikely to be effective.

For right now the idea is NOT to strip the current vegetation, just add biomass and some new perennial species and be ready for the herbivores next year.
 
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Tj Jefferson wrote:(reference the tree tubes). 


Be aware that tree tubes may not be sufficient to protect trees from sheep.  My sheep loved to eat trees more than anything, and would girdle quite large ones, not just saplings.
 
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Wow! even with lots of other goodies? I mean it is loaded in there with vines and comfrey and yumminess!

Is it mineral deficiency? Like phosphate?
 
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It might have been breed-specific; these were Jacobs, a goat-like breed who apparently like to browse as well as graze.  Mine chose browsing over grazing whenever possible.  I think there are breeds of sheep who much prefer to graze.

 
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Good to know! I was going to get Katahdins/crosses but I will ask the expert when he recovers a little bit from his chainsaw experience. Can't be ringing my trees, not neighborly.
 
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Holy frijoles! Buckwheat is already up an inch or more! I haven't been checking because I figured it has been less than a week. Got one huge soaker rain and another decent rain. It has emerged in both contested and bare areas! Pix this weekend when I am off. I'm trying to find images of other seedlings, some of the sunflowers already have roots but gracious, they may get crowded out by the buckwheat.
 
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Tj Jefferson wrote:We considered it, but at this point I am the main (read only outdoor) labor and I work a week on week off several times a year. So having any tractor-based livestock on this schedule is a non-starter.

The idea is that eventually I can have a sheep prison for the times I am at work (which would be approx 3 acres of pretty good sheep forage) with a watering system. Then when I am not at work I can have the sheep paroled into mobile electric fence paddocks in the new silvopasture (reference the tree tubes). We are not going to max out the carrying capacity because it will be based on the sheep prison alone. If I can get accomplices in this, I may have a similar setup for poultry, but we have a big fox population so the paddocks seem unlikely to be effective.

For right now the idea is NOT to strip the current vegetation, just add biomass and some new perennial species and be ready for the herbivores next year.


Take care with leaving grazers on any spot for more than 3-5 days and with returning them to the same place before the pasture has recovered (time varies, probably realistic minimum under good conditions is around 3 weeks).  Letting something take a second bite of your grasses before they regrow from the first bite and re-build their energy reserves is a good way to kill those grasses.

You might be able to set up a number of smaller paddocks and use something like https://www.novel.co.nz/product/356247?showFullSite=1 to let animals move while you're away.  Or make friends with a neighbor?
 
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Cool stuff! Unfortunately the main area the sheep would be in is a couple hundred yards from the tree tube plantation. And crosses the driveway. Most of the forage in the sheep prison area is vines anyhow, I am thinning the sweetgums to allow some growth foragers can reach. Mostly multiflora rose, autumn olive and honeysuckle. Not much growing at ground level.

The neighbor idea is good, I have corrupted one quite thoroughly and he would probably be willing to do it. It is much more fun when you have an accomplice, then your wives can speculate on just what the heck you are up to.

So sorry about the no pictures. I promise them. Been super busy with dirty wet jobs and not carrying my phone.

Short version -buckwheat with the early lead. No question! So far this stuff is cheap and growing well on some nasty hardpan areas. With a little cover to keep the crows from eating it I think this is a winner. I will definitely do it next summer. The other stuff is not doing much. The winter n-fixers are still looking really good, it has been pretty warm (like upper 80s) and no rain for a week. I pulled some buckwheat seedlings while planting and they are really digging in, they should explode with the next rain. We had a late frost that nipped it on exposed areas but no problem, some of the deeper seeds are filling in.

 
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