• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies living kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education experiences global resources the cider press projects digital market permies.com all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nicole Alderman
  • raven ranson
stewards:
  • paul wheaton
  • Jocelyn Campbell
  • Julia Winter
garden masters:
  • Anne Miller
  • Pearl Sutton
  • thomas rubino
  • Bill Crim
  • Kim Goodwin
  • Joylynn Hardesty
gardeners:
  • Amit Enventres
  • Mike Jay
  • Dan Boone

Was agriculture a mistake and permaculture an attempt to fix it?  RSS feed

 
Posts: 150
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Permaculture seems to be all about self-sustaining resource systems that operate without the help of a person and can support human life.  Its permanent because it operates on its own without the help of humans, kinda like things were before agriculture and domestication when people lived off wild ecosystems that were not domesticated. 
 
gardener
Posts: 1758
Location: Just northwest of Austin, TX
187
forest garden urban
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I think most people would be happy if they can manage a system that isn't degrading the environment.  Considering we expect our systems to support us, it seems reasonable to me to return some of our own labor to support the system.  What ever system someone develops, so long as it doesn't deplete our resources faster than they replenish, it can probably meet someone's definition of permaculture. It's when we steadily deplete and overuse what can't be replaced that we destroy all possibility of permanence. 
 
pollinator
Posts: 1130
Location: Big Island, Hawaii (2300' elevation, 60" avg. annual rainfall, temp range 55-80 degrees F)
173
books forest garden rabbit solar tiny house woodworking
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Benton, I don't see the definition of permaculture being a system without human input. It's not a self-operating Garden of Eden. Instead, I see it as a permanently producing agricultural system that could go on for hundreds or thousands of years without degrading. This would imply that finite resources, such as oil derived products, would not be part of the system.
 
Politics is a circus designed to distract you from what is really going on. So is this tiny ad:
Permaculture Voices 1 - Purchase All the Video Here!
https://permies.com/wiki/pv1
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!