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I am making a raised bed. I have alot of oak and bois'd arc wood that I am going to put in the bottom. I will fill the top in with rabbit manure and BSF castings and regular dirt. My question is if I also add pine cones would it turn my soil acidic the same way pine woo would do?
I will add pictures tomorow when I get it all put together
 
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a layer of pine needles or pine cones will not make your soil acidic.  

Some people will sprinkle on some pine needles & cones as mulch to their blueberry bushes thinking that is how you get acidic soil.  But if the soil is not acidic in the first place the blueberries will likely die.   You need acidic soil in the first place.  


Once carbon material is completely composted even if it comes from pine and confifers, the compost is basicially neutral.

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If it was my raised  garden bed, I would determine which plants I wanted to plant based upon the soil acidic/alkaline type.  

One should know the soil in their garden if it is acidic, neutral or alkaline.    Then plant the plants that like the type of soil you have. It takes a lot of compost to change the alkaline or acidic nature.  Ex. my soil is acidic.  So if I want to grow annual vegetables, I need a high concentation of compose mixed in with my acidic soil for my neutral loving plants to thrive.

A layer of pine needles as mulch or some pine cones will not make neutral or alkaline soil acidic.  I would not mix the fresh pine needles & cones that was freshly chopped up and mix it with a 50% ratio to your soil.  But I do add pine needles & cones as a layer of mulch on top.  

If I had large quantities of pine needles & cones, I would compost it in a pile and once composed, I would the add  the now almost neutral compost to my veggie annual garden.

So as you see, it depends....


 
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Thank you Michelle. Btw you have an awesome name my wife shares it with you. Anyway i appreciate the information. I am not sure of the plants that I want to plant but I will research this. Here are some pictures. The green on the inside is a nonbiodegradeable plastic vinyl that I get from work. I know it isn't very permaculture but I figure that I am keeping it out of a landfill by utilizing the scraps. My friend built the panels for me. And he stapled the plastic on in a way that we can plant viney plants along the border and push the stems through and they will climb over the pallets like a trellis. I will get more pictures as I go. And of better quality. It is always dark when I get done with projects there isnt enough time in the day haha. Cant wait for the time change!!!
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Thanks for the photos!  Enjoy your garden!
 
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Well I have it a little over half way full. I started out with a layer of cedar needles then put a layer of cotton wood logs and then all of my compost and then all 110 gallons of my BSF castings. At some point this week I am going to put in some shredded card board and finish filling it in with rabbit and goat manure. Here is a picture of the progress.

P.s. I opted out of doing the pine cones and will instead compost them
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