Ohio Permies (people) and Ohio Resources

This has been a wet summer - here's a video a while back about how it impacted our little farm and homestead:

And here's a little video down the driveway, usually heard in the background of the introduction to the All Around Growth podcast:



If you're interested in the show, check out the links in my signature below or in the description of the video

D Tucholske wrote:I had no clue this thread was here! Got nothing with regards to the papaws, I live up in the northeast corner of the state.  I was actually going to try to buy some seeds from Hobbyseed.com at some point.

I have Native American ancestry, from the Iroquois & Saponi- who were a Siouan tribe from Virginia & claimed to have once lived in Ohio. Since we built burial mounds, we believe ourselves & all other Siouan peoples to be directly descended from the Hopewell. I have no current connections to any tribe & didn't grow up with our culture, but I've taken an interest in it, as well as our local botany.

Started a project to clean up an area on the edge of the city & add in a lot more native plants that I've acquired through a couple Amazon sellers, Seedville USA, Prairie Moon Nursery, Outsidepride, Hobbyseed & a couple other places. Am in the process of trying to get rid of some Trees of Heaven, Domesticated grapes, Multiflora Rose, Japanese Honeysuckle & Buckthorn to make room.

Been on this site about a year. I made a couple useful threads, if anyone saw them-- "What I've Learned Rewinding Appalachian Ohio" & "Native Edible Plants of the Continental US."

I wouldn't be surprised if they originally came from Ohio since another Siouan-Catawban speaking people called the Ofo or Mosopelea once inhabited southern Ohio where I live before the beaver wars of the 17th century drove them further south.

Ryan M Miller wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if they originally came from Ohio since another Siouan-Catawban speaking people called the Ofo or Mosopelea once inhabited southern Ohio where I live before the beaver wars of the 17th century drove them further south.

The Mosopelea we're actually the only historically recorded tribe of the Fort Ancient Culture, & I'm glad people in Ohio are starting to become aware of them. Albeit, that direct connection between the Mosopelea, Saponi & Catawba was put forward by some of the Saponi due to a misunderstanding. Fort Ancients & the Saponi were both Siouans & close allies, but their languages were mutually unintelligible from one another, excepting a few borrow words which passed between the two peoples. Catawba arrived in Virginia with the Saponi before splitting off from them & migrating south into the Carolinas, but seem to have come from somewhere completely different from where the Saponi did, though the Saponi have always stated that their ancestors came from Ohio. More than anything, I actually suspect northern Ohio & western Pennsylvania, not from within the Fort Ancients themselves. The language barrier doesn't add up.

Sadly, though, it's becoming increasingly likely that I am not actually Saponi. My family identified as Blackfoot & we thought for a while that the Blackfoot were the Blackfoot out west, then there was a long period where we thought we were Saponi because someone thought it was short for Sisipahaw & that that means Isi + asep (foot, black), but the Saponi have recently disowned us.

I was talking this over with an actual Blackfoot from Montana, though & we worked out a something that actually seems pretty likely- the Eastern Blackfoots are actually the Makojay Shawnee, who went missing during the Indian Removals. Our last chief was named Blackhoof & thought the best think for the Shawnee was if we assimilated completely with white Americans. His name in Shawnee would be Mkatehassa (mm-kah-tee-hahs-suh), so Makojay probably is a further corruption of his name & likely also means Blackfoot. Plus, my mother happens to look exactly like a portrait of him I found, though he doesn't look much like the average Shawnee, & most pictures procured by other Blackfoots in the east of relatives who look more Native tend to either look like Blackhoof or your average Shawnee person today. My family had a Shawnee last name, but most have names in their families from tribes from all over the place, so I think our families were also taking in random, mixed Natives who also wanted to assimilate & those who didn't want to went south & merged with the Cherokee.

Don't know how things will go with bringing this up with the actual Shawnee, though. Or even other Shawnee in Ohio, since there's already a group trying to get state recognition who call themselves the Makojays.

Hi all,

Ive lurked Permies for some time, but I just now officially joined. I recently moved to the Greater Dayton area and am surprised to see there are actually people (relatively) near me that are interested in this kinda thing! How cool is that

Here is a picture of my cat eyeing my first kale harvest for your viewing pleasure

Hi all,

It’s been a wild few years on the homestead and I’ve been thinking about the permies community and feeling distanced from it.

I’m up in the big city (Cleveland) today picking up supplies and at a doctors appointment checking in after a while here and elsewhere.

Here’s our most recent blog post with some homestead updates and big changes over the past year or so:  https://www.yorkmeadowfarm.com/blog/2024/2/5/celebrating-our-journey-from-family-farm-to-co-op-success-story

Look forward to continued connections with people here in Ohio, interested in homesteading, irrigation installations, the Freedom Cell Network, and many permies related things.

Hope to hear some updates from fellow Ohio people out there soon!  👍