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Single 58 fem Building Community using Social Permaculture

 
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I have been living in rural SW Oregon for 13 years developing a Homestead called Treesong. It is several acres in a forested mountain. I learned Natural Building from Ianto Evans, then designed and built an 700' curvilnear building with a Rocket Stove and Living Roof.  The grey water is recycled into the garden.  I read a lot of Permaculture books.  I had Tom Ward come and help me design Key-line paths and future pond sites.  Then took my PDC a few years ago, followed by Optical Surveying for Earth Works.  I taught many WWOOFERS on Treesong and finally took my Teacher Training from Judd Hobbs.  I taught building with Ianto and Linda at Cobville for the past 2 years.  I've had Nigerian Dwarf goats help with fuels reduction work, and developed some hugelkultur beds in zone 1.  Just recently I took a Social Permaculture Class with Starhawk.  I am an elder, and what I learned is that my leadership style is a visionary, and mentor who is moving into a role as collaborator.  I want to bring  a group of diverse people to uform a community on Treesong. In Star's class, we defined diversity as having a variety of gifts and perspectives to fill a role and niches working together to create strong resilient bonds so everyone thrives.  Treesong is held in a living Trust, never to be sold.  The goal is an ultimate Permaculture Design for a model to teach Advanced Permaculture Skills emergence workshops.  Please tell me about yourself; skills, interests, dreams, even those not necessarily pertaining to Permaculture.
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Hazel
 
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Hi Hazel!

I thought you deserved at least one reply.  Yours is an interesting project.  I would suggest that your post belongs in the Intentional Community sub-forum, rather than in Permaculture Singles, given that you are looking for people interested in your project, rather than for people interested in you personally.

Social Permaculture is certainly an interesting idea, though I suspect that few, if any, groups of folks have enough experience with it to say whether it will be any more successful than any of the other experiments in alternative social relations.  I lived, for a number of years, in an intentional community in Staten Island (Ganas), which is (or perhaps was) based (loosely) on Marxian economics, and the idea that an individual could change how they respond to conflict by a deep understanding of the sources of their response.  (People's responses to conflicts are rarely based in a rational desire to resolve them.)  That community, after experiencing some rather wrenching changes, has been in a long (as in YEARS long) discussion on how to proceed from where they are.  I can tell you, community is not an easy project.

And, then, there is the whole question of whether it matters at all, anyway, other than as an opportunity for certain individuals to pursue what they may consider to be a life of excellence and love, in the face of the significant possibility of Near Term Human Extinction (see Guy McPherson't web log, "Nature Bats Last").  My own feeling is that one more source of "Advancded Permaculture Skills...workshops." is a bit more than needed.  My hope (and it is a meager hope indeed) is to find some folks whose tolerance for difference is sufficient that they might live in enough proximity to serve each other in need while leaving each other otherwise alone.

In any event, I wish you the best,
Gordon

 
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Hazel Reagan wrote:...I want to bring  a group of diverse people to uform a community on Treesong. In Star's class, we defined diversity as having a variety of gifts and perspectives to fill a role and niches working together to create strong resilient bonds so everyone thrives.  Treesong is held in a living Trust, never to be sold.  The goal is an ultimate Permaculture Design for a model to teach Advanced Permaculture Skills emergence workshops.  Please tell me about yourself; skills, interests, dreams, even those not necessarily pertaining to Permaculture.
Thank-you,
Hazel



Hazel. are you still looking for people to join you? my partner and I have been seeking an intentional community for the past year and your venture sounds amazing. I have all sorts of hands-on skills (plumbing/irrigation, basic carpentry, natural building, alternate energy, etc) and have been wanting to teach workshops. We are currently on a permaculture homestead in Upstate NY but want to move west this summer.
I had my heart set on Oregon but up till now we hadn't found a suitable community there. Let me know if you want to chat more.
 
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Hey Hazel!

Your"Treesong" community does indeed sound amazing!  I would love to join it.  I don't have any training in permaculture, but I have tried to keep up with the basic ideas.

I'm 67 years old and would have to bring my large dog.  I have some gardening experience.

Someone mentioned "intentional communities" website.  I am very interested in a community there Caballos de la Estressas located in Arizona and New Mexico.  I would love to have folks to help me there with setting up a home and maybe retreat business.

They are starting a permaculture operation there too.

But not to distract attention from Treesong.  It sounds astounding and I would like to learn more about it.

Barbara Allen
barbann3@gmail.com
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Hello, Miss Reagan

I have been wanting to be self sufficient, I love this planet, it's so wonderful to us. Recently I started or try to grow some plants but it's not easy doing so in a Clay soil. Love the idea of community where people contribute towards a cause at the same time they are there to also help each other out in moments of need. I used to work in geriatrics than pediatrics, haven't practice nursing now for almost 20 years, my son's age. Now I have a new passion of all kind of plants, people who can contribute and I can learn from. My dream is to one day become an herbalist or a combination of natural remedies (the old fashion way) I love primitive engineering! would love to be part of your ideas, love learning new things. Keep in touch please.

Pearl
 
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Dear Hazel,
Inquiring about Treesong via davidjbrock99@hotmail.com
Thank You
David
 
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Hello Hazel,

I currently live in Ojai, Ca. Many sustainable advocates here and I've been wanting to discover an intentional community to live in. I'm older as well, 61, fit and healthy. I've been involved with permaculture design, organic farming, city planning and have many years as a life coach, mediator, Peace builder and community facilitator.
I'd like to know more about you and your vision of community.
Best,
Ray Powers
raypows@gmail.com
Also, on Facebook.
 
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Hello Hazel,
My name is Rachel. Also SWF 58.
I hope you are living well at Treesong.
It was uplifting to read your post. Total applause on your accomplishments so far.
It seems that we are of like mind.
I have a long held vision of a social Permaculture farm in a living trust. I can’t seem to have that conversation with very many people where I am from.
I am currently in search of land or a share in a Permaculture Farm. Yes, one that is or can be in a living Trust. Yes, one with all socially accepted. The Motherboard that can send love, kindness & education out to the eroded.
If you somehow get this message please feel free to contact me at detororachel@yahoo.com
Many blessings
 
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