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Connecting permaculture with societal change

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I'm really enjoying reading the conversations here this week. It has reminded me that I should do more than just subscribe to the daily email from permies.com -- I should keep participating, too! Thank you all.

Today I'm thinking a lot about the connections between permaculture and building a better world -- between permaculture and the kind of change that Fay and I describe in our book. I see some clear connections, and yet I think this is an idea that I need to explore some more.

For me, there's a clear connection between the permaculture approach of caring for and living with the earth and all its creatures rather than taking a kind of mining approach to food production. (I see that in standard agriculture -- its very extraction-based -- and honestly in gardening sometimes too.) That's the heart of the connection between permaculture and social change for me.

How do you see this connection?
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Here are a couple of talks by Toby Hemenway which have helped me think about these things:

Toby Hemenway - How Permaculture Can Save Humanity and the Earth, but Not Civilization  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nLKHYHmPbo

Redesigning Civilization -- with Permaculture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b7zJ-hx_c
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