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A piece of land is worth as much as the person farming it.
-Le Livre du Colon, 1902
Timothy Markus wrote:Hi Nathan. The pics don't come through for me, not sure about anyone else.
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Dale Hodgins wrote:If there are lots of thorny type bushes growing on scrubland nearby, you might harvest those thorn trees and let the goats eat what they will, then drive stakes all around the garden plot, to stop them from being moved by the wind. Any junk organic material could be woven into it or laid against it, so that you would have a fence / windbreak in one.
Dale Hodgins wrote:I've had my fiance in the Philippines check out uses for Moringa trees, and people use them to support other crops like bitter gourd and string beans. When planted close enough together, sticks can be run between the tops so that anything with a vine can interlace those tops to create a fairly dense canopy. Beans, loofah and a dozen other things. Let them grow right to the ground along the perimeter of your garden so that it's like a giant igloo. The string beans and other thing will bear the brunt of the wind that makes it past the windbreak. So things growing in the pit will have some shade and wind protection.
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Dale Hodgins wrote:It would be nice to find something vining and thorny that goats won't eat, but that may be a tall order.
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Dan Allen wrote:I don't have any suggestions, but I think you are awesome for what you are doing. Is there a way to send seeds or small donations?
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hans muster wrote:https://qcat.wocat.net/en/summary/1359/?as=html
you may want to get inspired with what the ngo newTree is doing in Burkina Faso, see the link above.
You may also want to check out this document on living fences in Nigeria
https://www.misereor.org/fileadmin//user_upload/misereor_org/Publications/englisch/fencing-agricultural-land-in-nigeria.pdf
For how long do you intend to stay?
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Nathanael Szobody wrote:Thanks Michael,
Our land is flat and sandy, so no seasonal waterways. We get 80 cm of rain in about three to four months, so in some of those huge ones there is some surface flow. But a few swales keep that in place.
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But the terraced pit is where my imagination is running right now. I hope for a rain forest micro-climate.
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Nathanael Szobody wrote:Thanks for the links!
Land degradation is a huge issue here as well, and the people of this tribe have not begin to think about solutions for it. So planting trees is front and center in our strategy. You can see my design above for reference.
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As for grazing livestock, this may work once the trees are a little bigger. I think paddocking some milk goats would be a great project for the kids. We don't have an issue with infiltration though--the land is real sandy!
Something I should mention: we get eight months without a drop of rain. And then we get 80 cm / 31.5 inches in four months. So far, I have not seen any Permaculture system in such a climate. There are no "pastures" to speak of in the dry season. Cattle forage dry grass, crop residue and tree leaves during that time. And all high value trees must be irrigated by hand. If my main goal was growing forest, that would be easy with local wild species, but a high value food forest is another ball game. Perhaps I'll write a book some day...
We're digging some swales right now, not for water catchment as much as mulch catchment and irrigation retention: we plant trees IN the swales here. I might post a picture of that at some point, but my internet isn't working well enough right now :-(
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Nathanael Szobody wrote:I'll try out the videos in a few months when I'm in the city and have better internet. Thanks!
I've used solar ovens. My son made cookies in ours last week. They're great!... Until a cloud moves over the sun. "Sorry kids, no dinner tonight; there was a cloud." Not the sort of thing I can promote to the local women!
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Mark Kissinger wrote:
Over time. devote some of your pasture to be "saved" for the dry season needs of your fertile females of each breed, and a good male or two to be used for stud.
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Nathanael Szobody wrote:
Mark Kissinger wrote:
Over time. devote some of your pasture to be "saved" for the dry season needs of your fertile females of each breed, and a good male or two to be used for stud.
You have some good ideas Mark. And it really underscores how different the climate and culture are here.
Here people do not own pasture. They own fields that they cultivate, but if it is not cultivated it's fair game for anyone's herds. Even if I do not graze the land I own any number of nomadic herdsmen will come through and help themselves--sometimes they do that even when there are ripe crops standing in the field!
I assure you, when I have found an integrated social permaculture system for this context I will be writing the book!
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