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Paul Wheaton and Jocelyn Campbell talk about how got started. Paul shares about his lawn care article and needing help managing his emails. He then talks about the difference between making nature "your personal bitch" and working with nature. Aligned with nature, you can do 100 times more. He tells how maybe 10,000 years ago, the Sahara used to be a lush jungle until folks chopped down trees to start agriculture. Paul sees permaculture as a direction rather than a specific something. He also wants to emphasize how to be good rather than pointing out what is bad. He and Jocelyn share about taking a permaculture design course (PDC). Paul talks about Sepp Holzer, and the PDC experience. He compares the typical garden to Sepp Holzer's approach. He does nothing but harvest, and gives an example of polyculture: there is an exchange of nutrients and water between a pea plant and a tap-rooted oak tree, especially with the help of undisturbed soil components such as mycelium. With tilling, you release 30% of the organic matter into the atmosphere. He mentions Helen Atthowe‘s knowledge of soil. The value of animals in the system, and ponds. Sepp doesn't feed his fish. He has entered into alignment with the ecosystem, and they always have food. Paul's not a huge fan of aquaponics because they are reliant on humans. Sepp Holzer lives in the Austrian Alps, and yet he grows citrus. Paul talks about farming on a mountainside as opposed to a valley. Paul and Jocelyn wrap up the podcast saying listeners can make podcast topic requests or ask questions podcast topic requests or ask questions, and help by participating in the tinkering forum and navigating Reddit. Lastly, they share about Masanobu Fukuoka and "do-nothing farming."


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My step dad has a few hundred acres in Central Illinois and he farms like everyone else does. How would you go about showing him a different way of farming (keeping in mind that he is a curmudgeony Korean War Vet/Caol Miner/Farmer in his 70's) that could increase his income 10-100 times? I would think that there would have to be a time caveat and that this couldn't be done in 1 growing season.

How do you take farmers from their mechanized way to this Holzer Permaculture? When a farmer has 300 hundred acres to harvest and we turn it into this food forest, with swales and ponds and all this other stuff how are they going to harvest in a timely manner? Is there some youtube videos of something this large? I am new to permaculture (I can barely spell it) so please excuse my ignorance. I saw the vids from Geoff Lawton and everything that was shown seemed to be on the small scale (less than 50 acres) which is why I am asking.

You should add tractory to wikipedia!!

Again you sounded like Rumpelstiltskin (From Shrek Forever After), this time it was when you were talking about Sepp Hozer's new book that had just been translated into english.
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E, there may be a good video on this thread that would help?

I know that I have found some youtubes that specifically address large scale farmers moving to permaculture, just cant seem to find them right now.
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Thanks for the link!!
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