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Hyper Local for all types of heating systems - part of the Heat Infographic project

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Mud and Paul (and Andres) are keen to make an infographic about home heat choices. Across the top will be types of heat. And down the left side will be attributes/metrics. With each metric will be a link to a thread that will act as a source for that row of information in the infographic. Or, hopefully, a bit of a bibliography. This thread is one of those threads.

Paul thinks that this work is so very critically important that he wanted to see if by starting these threads, the work can get started. He very much hopes that you all will add to this effort so that we might be done in a tenth of the time than if it were just him and Mud working on it.

All of the metrics for all of infographic is focused on "average for Montana". Keeping in mind that the average Montana home is 2000 square feet.

Heat infographic we're working on here: https://permies.com/t/204534/creating-heat-infographic"

Electric Baseboard

Mini Splits

In Ground Heat Pump

Central Natural Gas Furnace

Central Propane Furnace

Pellet Stove

Wood Stove

Modern wood stove

Masonry Heater

Rocket Mass Heater

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Liv Smith

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Anyone has anything they want to share about how any of these heating systems are or are not local?

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Electric Baseboard NOT local at all

Mini Splits NOT local at all

In Ground Heat Pump NOT local at all

Natural Gas NOT local at all

Propane NOT local at all

Wood Stove The materials the stove is made of are not local, the fuel could be

Modern wood stove The materials the stove is made of are not local, the fuel could be very local

Pellet Stove Not Local at all

Masonry Heater Some of the materials can be local if it's made of cob ; fuel could be local too

Rocket Mass Heater Most materials to build with and fuel can be sourced in ones back yard

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Liv Smith wrote:Electric Baseboard NOT local at all

Mini Splits NOT local at all

In Ground Heat Pump NOT local at all

Natural Gas NOT local at all

Propane NOT local at all

Wood Stove The materials the stove is made of are not local, the fuel could be

Modern wood stove The materials the stove is made of are not local, the fuel could be very local

Pellet Stove Not Local at all

Masonry Heater Some of the materials can be local if it's made of cob ; fuel could be local too

Rocket Mass Heater Most materials to build with and fuel can be sourced in ones back yard

Hmm...
I think this creates a scenario where there is only one "right" answer. I'm a lot more shades of green myself.
As an example:
If you have a pellet mill nearby or a stove manufacturer in your state/province I see those as creeping towards local. If your RMH is using firebrick, stainless steel, glass matt insulation you are creeping away from it. Situations will vary depending on your area and situation.

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So does the hyper local refer to the materials used to build the heating system, or the fuel used in the heating system? Both?

A mini split or ground source heat pump that is run off of solar electricity or micro hydro on your property is hyper local in its consumption, but not in its materials.

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