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“All good things are wild, and free.” Henry David Thoreau
Artie Scott wrote:Looks like a nice spread, Ryan! I have a hard time imagining no rocks since they are everywhere here - sounds quite luxurious!
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-Nathanael
Nathanael Szobody wrote:Exciting stuff! I'll be following...
About the orchard: traditional orchard? Food forest? Back to Eden? Alley cropping? What's your plan for sustainable fertility in that sector?
Have fun!
Burl Smith wrote:hmm...I dare say the application of the Ruth Stout method on these 2 acres will require many large heaps of woodchips.
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Ryan Hobbs wrote:
Nathanael Szobody wrote:Exciting stuff! I'll be following...
About the orchard: traditional orchard? Food forest? Back to Eden? Alley cropping? What's your plan for sustainable fertility in that sector?
Have fun!
Silvopasture. The chickens and sheep will graze there, and the leaf drop will not be moved.
-Nathanael
Nathanael Szobody wrote:
Ryan Hobbs wrote:
Nathanael Szobody wrote:Exciting stuff! I'll be following...
About the orchard: traditional orchard? Food forest? Back to Eden? Alley cropping? What's your plan for sustainable fertility in that sector?
Have fun!
Silvopasture. The chickens and sheep will graze there, and the leaf drop will not be moved.
Might I suggest adding support tree species among the fruit ones?
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Ryan Hobbs wrote:Okay, I gave this some more thought and changed my mind about the silvopasture.
Now it is going to be a food forest. I am moving the garden to higher ground, expanding the pasture into the current garden, and converting the silvopasture/orchard into a very diverse food forest.
Trees: apples, pears, persimmons, peaches, cherries, thornless honey locust, chinese chestnut, and prickly mountain ash.
Shrubs: blueberry, blackberry, camelia, lingonberry, viburnum
Vines: hardy kiwi, grapes
Groundcover: strawberries and cucurbitae, spreading and mounding herbs
Nitrogen fixing: pole beans, illinois bunchflower, clover
Bioaccumulators: mustard, asparagus, comfrey, sunflower
Barrier plants: hardy orange
Insect attractants: tobacco, goldenrod, vibernum, sage family, carrot family
Edited to add: the hardy orange is a barrier to mosquitos and deer. The bunchflower is also a hay crop and useful medicinally to remedy addiction according to its traditional use in combination with Nicotiana rustica as a smoked herb.
-Nathanael
Nathanael Szobody wrote:Woohoo! Now you're talking! A great addition to the"vine" category would be wild rosehips. They're so delicious in the late fall and early winter and packed with vitamin C (and other good stuff). They also produce copiously on complete neglect. Partial shade is fine.
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Nathanael Szobody wrote:Wow, nice big food forest!
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If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. -B. Franklin
T.J. Stewart wrote:Nice plan. Just wanted to mention that blueberries aren't the easiest to get going in Ohio. The pH is usually too high. It can be lowered with things like sulfur spread the year before planting. If you don't want to use sulfur, I think some people have tried pine needles, but I'm not really sure if that works. An alternative to blueberries are haskaps (honeyberries). They are actually higher in antioxidants than blueberries and have virtually no disease or pests. We just planted about 140 in one of our orchards as under stories. If you want to learn more about honeyberries, www.lovehoneyberry .com has a great wealth of information, links and resources to get you started. Also, I was watching The Permaculture Orchard a couple of weeks ago and I noticed that Stefan has them planted in his orchard as well. If you haven't seen The Permaculture Orchard, I would highly recommend that you watch it. The download version is less than 8.00 on the website.
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If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. -B. Franklin
T.J. Stewart wrote:Good to know. I hope that you are successful in your endeavors, no matter what you decide. :)
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