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Is this Salvia Miltiorrhiza or a Skullcap ? Or something else ?

 
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Hello,

Last autumn I tried to plants some motherwort, some skullcaps as well as some Salvia Miltiorrhiza (a medicinal, chinese sage). As I have never grown these herbs before, I don't know what they look like. However the one I'm showing should be sage, I'm pretty sure of it. The other plants I mentioned were grown next, so maybe I had some confusion with the planting (completely unlikely, as I absolutely NEVER forget what I planted somewhere... if only).

I planted more sage this year (the same kind), and it looks completely different to what I had sown last autumn. So either it's some natural transformation because of the cold and the age of the plant, or I just happen to have taken very good care of some random herb... I tried to use plantnet.org to identify it, but it kept telling me that it's nettle, or weed. It doesn't sting and doesn't stink, so it's neither (and I've eaten enough nettle to know).

On the left, it's what I sowed last year. On the right, what should be 100% salvia, sown a few weeks ago. If what's on the left is not salvia miltiorrhiza, what could it be ? (same question for the right, but hopefully it's sage; it even have the similar looking leaves).

 
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Horseweed (Erigeron canadensis)
 
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It's toxic so don't try to eat...
 
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Thanks for trying to help, but this doesn't look at all like Erigeron canadensis, from what I can see on pictures on the internet. However I saw that you replied to another of my thread, where the plant does look like it. Did you make a mistake posting in the current thread ?
 
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Possibly, let me check it out again. Is the plant more mature now?
 
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Okay yes, it was your other plant that is Horseweed. Still trying to identify this one. Thanks
 
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I also misidentified your mushroom, so I had better leave those to the mycologists and experts!
 
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What's on the right looks like it could grown into Salvia miltorrhiza: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Salvia_miltiorrhiza#/media/File:Salvia_miltiorrhiza_kz01.jpg
It might be skullcap, but skullcap leaves look to be a little more deeply lobed than what you have.

The one on the left looks as if it could be young motherwort: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Leonurus_cardiaca#/media/File:Leonurus_cardiaca_Samarsky20140814_47.jpg

You may need to grow them on some more to see the mature leave shapes and flowers to make a definite ID.
 
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Thanks.

So yeah, on the right it's 100% Salvia Miltiorrhiza, as I transplanted them this year, and this time I took the time to write down what I planted and where.

So on the left it's probably Leonurus Sibiricus (if it looks like "common" motherwort"). I had planted three kind of skullcap (Baicalensis, Laterifolia, and Barbata; sorry I don't know yet the simpler names !) last autumn and this variety of siberian motherwort (also called honeyweed it seems), I somehow didn't mention that in the OP. Since the Baikal Skullcap looks different from its two cousins I thought the photo on the left might have been some skullcap (not the barbata though, as this one is currently growing nicely).

I have more motherwort on the way, although they are much younger and barely are getting their true leaves. I'll try to keep this thread updated when they become bigger.
 
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Some photo of what is 100% motherwort (siberian motherwort/honeyweed) is included in the message, if I've used the attachment function correctly.

At first it looked like some sage to me, hence the initial confusion.
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