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Tight goat udder, treatment thoughts?

 
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I tried posting this on the goat and sheep forum and didn't get any answers, so I'm trying again here. We're probably going to take her to the vet this morning, but when we called they didn't have any ideas, and we've tried everything we know. We had some more experienced goat farmers come over and look at her, and they didn't have any clue either.
I have milked goats, sheep, and cows for a number of years now, so I know the difference between edema tight and unnatural tight. I've also encountered mastitis a number of times, and this is different. Our doe, Fantasia, kidded Saturday morning, and had a single buckling. She's a Spanish doe that we got last fall, and she came from a farm that was pretty hands off. Because of that we didn't milk her until Monday morning to try and ease her into it without causing lots of trust issues towards us. I realize now that we should've milked her out the first evening anyways, because she only had one, but it looked like her little guy was drinking from both sides, so I didn't do anything and wasn't concerned. When we milked her, we discovered that one side was hard and wouldn't milk out at all. It's not hot to the touch, and isn't causing her pain, so it isn't mastitis. Her teat isn't blocked at all, but the milk still won't go into the teat. Her other half is completely normal. We stuck a pin up her teat and that didn't help at all, and we couldn't find any blockage to clear away.
I read online that we should soak it with hot water, peppermint, and rub it a lot several times a day, and it will eventually clear out.We'd really like to be able to milk her this lactation, so any advice would be greatly appreciated! Has anyone experienced this? How did you treat it? How long did it take to clear up? Did it have any lasting effects if done right? What may have caused this (besides her kid not nursing, is there anything else that could've caused it)? Besides wanting to milk her, she's also a doe we'd really like to use in our breeding program. If this is genetic, and there's nothing we can do about it, then it will mean we probably can't use her buckling in our breeding program (which would be really sad, because he looks great so far). Please offer any tips, we're out of ideas! Thanks in advance!
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Elena, that is interesting! We had a doe that the milk wouldn't flow to the teat. massaging the udder with warm peppermint water helped. I was able to get the milk flowing for the kid. It was an accidental breeding and her second kidding in a season. I was concerned there would be no milk for the new kid.

Milking right after birth helps on new does. Heard that the oxytocin is still flowing and the doe is generally calmer right after birth. Plus if any milk is collected it can be saved, it will contain colostrum.

Back to your situation. Does it feel like there is milk in the udder?
 
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Sena Kassim wrote: Heard that the oxytocin is still flowing and the doe is generally calmer right after birth. Plus if any milk is collected it can be saved, it will contain colostrum.

Back to your situation. Does it feel like there is milk in the udder?


Yeah, they generally are after they feel safe. We didn't think she would kid for at least a few more days (we bought her bred, and the breeder was 100% hands off, so we had no clue besides her bagging up), so she was still down with our "flerd" of sheep, other goats, alpacas, and guard dogs. She was NOT happy about the dogs, and got super aggressive for a bit. We had earned enough trust that I was able to come up and grab the little guy and lead her to a jug, but we didn't want to push her. I definitely agree though, collecting colostrum is really helpful!
We did end up going to the vet, and it turns out that she has cancer in her udder (great sadness)! It's pretty contained right now, but it means that there isn't really anything we can do. I really wish the breeder had known more about them, but apparently she's about six or seven years old. At least, that was the vet's guess based on her teeth. She isn't missing any teeth, and her fur and conditioning is pretty good, so that's a bonus! But other than that, we just continue to feed her and breed her, and then just let her live for as long as she can. It does mean that we can use her billy to breed, since it isn't hereditary, so that's one bonus!
 
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Elena, glad you have received an answer. It's good to hear that her coat and body condition seems well. Then she is still healthy.
Is the kid growing and gaining weight? dwarf goats generally should be gaining about 4ozs daily. if he is, there may not need to bottle/jug feed.

do you plan to keep breeding the doe?
 
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Sena Kassim wrote: It's good to hear that her coat and body condition seems well. Is the kid growing and gaining weight? dwarf goats generally should be gaining about 4ozs daily. if he is, there may not need to bottle/jug feed. Do you plan to keep breeding the doe?



Yeah, you never would've guessed that she was even that old! Her second half is completely unaffected, and is producing really well. He's getting to be quite the tanker, lol! We do plan on breeding her again. Even if it means that we end up bottle feeding a kid or two next year. She loves being a mama, and we want to give her as many opportunities to do that as possible. Besides the fact that we really want her genetics in our flock. Do you have any suggestions for treating the cancer? The vet said that all we can do is keep her healthy, so that's a start. In the long run, it's just nice to have closure for what's going on, so we can be prepared for when she does die.
 
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A dose of powdered Vit. C in water, will usually loosen up a congested udder, maybe 1000 mg;  and make sure they are getting a free choice mineral made for goats, which usually has extra copper.  
 
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