• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Carla Burke
  • Nancy Reading
  • r ranson
  • Jay Angler
  • John F Dean
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Nicole Alderman
  • paul wheaton
  • Anne Miller
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Matt McSpadden

Options for inbetween stone?

 
Posts: 2
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I'm in the beginning deign stages of getting  furnace up before winter this year, and one this I have in abundance is Field stone, and a lot of sandy/gravely land.   I have some ability to shape he stone as well.  What I'm wondering is what is the best 'mortaring' option to use between stones and the exhaust tube?  I could use concrete or mortar, but that makes it pretty much impossible to service/remove etc.. so I was thinking gravel/sand but from reading up regular old cob may be the easiest, and one of the best options to use.

C.D.
 
Posts: 606
Location: Sierra Nevada foothills, 350 m, USDA 8b, sunset zone 7
104
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Clyde,

I would use the dirt, or dirt enriched with some clay, or clay/sand mix if your dirt seems to not have any clay. In most cases you will find a pocket of good dirt for cob on a large property.
 
pollinator
Posts: 5082
Location: Canadian Prairies - Zone 3b
1376
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I think people have been using a clay slip (slurry) for bricks. It makes the bricks into a single thermal mass.

For field stone, I would guess that the irregular surfaces probably mean bigger gaps, requiring cob to bond them together thermally and stabilize them in place.
 
Cristobal Cristo
Posts: 606
Location: Sierra Nevada foothills, 350 m, USDA 8b, sunset zone 7
104
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Slurry would only work if the joints were small, otherwise the high water contents of the slurry would cause cracking when drying.
 
Clyde Dale
Posts: 2
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Cristobal Cristo wrote:Hi Clyde,

I would use the dirt, or dirt enriched with some clay, or clay/sand mix if your dirt seems to not have any clay. In most cases you will find a pocket of good dirt for cob on a large property.



There is clay in some spots, but you have to dig down a few feet - I recently put up 1500 feet of field fence and dug a lot of 4 foot post holes so I have a pretty good idea of what is around.  -Very- Sandy.  In fact, the back part of the property was used by a previous owner to mine and sell sand.  Clay is easy enough to get, however, and mix in.

CD
 
Douglas Alpenstock
pollinator
Posts: 5082
Location: Canadian Prairies - Zone 3b
1376
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Clyde, I can't claim to be a mass heater expert, but from what I've seen (based on the clay I can get, and they aren't all the same) you are absolutely on the right track. The key is a contiguous thermal bridge that makes one single mass.
 
master steward
Posts: 7080
Location: southern Illinois, USA
2580
goat cat dog chicken composting toilet food preservation pig bee solar wood heat homestead
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Clyde,

Welcome to Permies.
 
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. But if you read my tiny ad, I might change my mind.
turnkey permaculture paradise for zero monies
https://permies.com/t/267198/turnkey-permaculture-paradise-monies
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic