Persimmon seeds for rootstock

I would like to obtain some persimmon seeds (diospyros kaki) in order to grow my own rootstock. Store bought persimmons where I live are all from male trees apparently and therefore have no seeds. Does anyone know where I could get some persimmon seeds, or is there someone out there who would be willing to sell or trade with me?

Rose,

Why would you care that the rootstock is male if you will be grafting it?

I don’t care if the rootstock is male! I just am not able to source seeds from persimmons I found in the store because they are seedless. I think it is because they are male?

Japanese persimmons have to be cross pollinated to have seeds.
I would recommend planting American persimmons as the rootstock. They will be better anchored and more resistant to cold temperatures. I have three and will be grafting them with Japanese scions next year. Originally they were grafted with American scions, but none of them survived my summer.

Oh ok! I bought some American persimmon seeds on Etsy so that’s what I will do. Why do you think the grafting you did last year failed?

Rose,

They were already grafted - American persimmons grafted on American rootstock. Out of four that I had: Geneva, Meader, Nikita, Yates, only Nikita survived being Japanese/American hybrid. The other three were scorched by sun and hot wind. Shading, windbreaks from pallets did not help at all. I also had "Sun" persimmon that was finished the same way. This proved that American persimmon can not survive my climate and probably other hot dry climates. The suckers on three trees are growing fine. I wanted to graft them next year, but probably will wait first to see when exactly they start waking up. They were the last trees to leaf out - in June/July. This way I will know when to schedule scion shipping. I will be grafting them only with Japanese scions.
I have also ordered 6 Japanese persimmon trees