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Identify this fruit tree and how to propagate

 
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I was told persimmon. When ripe its yellow. Im working on a couple of different methods to get some more started but not having much luck.

I havent tasted a yellow one yet, the one I tasted was yellowish and it made my mouth numb but the taste nevertheless was good enough to make me try very hard to get a similar plant going on my property. Thanks
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Our persimmons are wider and shorter, but it appears to be some kind of persimmon. Ours are not ripe enough to eat until the first frost, otherwise the pucker-mouth you described. They grow readily from seed here.
 
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yup, looks like an asian persimmon, maybe the saijo variety. i suspect that variety will only sweeten up when the fruit is totally soft like pudding.
 
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Great job
 
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as far as propagation goes, if they have seeds, you can plant the ones out of ripe fruits. they also graft relatively easily, onto another asian persimmon rootstock, or american persimmon if they okay in your area.
 
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greg mosser wrote:as far as propagation goes, if they have seeds, you can plant the ones out of ripe fruits. they also graft relatively easily, onto another asian persimmon rootstock, or american persimmon if they okay in your area.


I know nothing about grafting but am eager to learn. Thanks Greg
 
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I tasted a ripe fruit tbis weekend. It was like pudding. Awesome taste. Sucked it easily out of the skin.

Ive planted 2 of these trees. I hope I can see fruit
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nice!
 
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greg mosser wrote:nice!



I hope I can hear more about persimmons that do well in Fl. Id like to buy more trees but with so many varieties I dont know which would well
 
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Jason Walter wrote:I tasted a ripe fruit tbis weekend.


you're in FL, so I assume you'll still be getting some heat for a while. If you can, freeze some of those ripe ones, it's an amazing treat on a hot day.
 
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Tereza Okava wrote:

Jason Walter wrote:I tasted a ripe fruit tbis weekend.


you're in FL, so I assume you'll still be getting some heat for a while. If you can, freeze some of those ripe ones, it's an amazing treat on a hot day.



I bet it is, its not my tree, the guy said no problem though, only a couple left on it much too high to reach. Hate to show up at his doorstep with a ladder.......now that I think of it I bet he has a ladder :}
 
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Japanese Persimmon (Diospyros kaki)
 
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