• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Cutting time for Oat Covercrop to avoid reseeding.

 
Posts: 1
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hello,
I've been a lurker here for quite awhile and decided to sign up. I own a smaller garlic and hot pepper startup farm and hopefully will begin selling this year to the permies. Last year I produced a few thousand lbs of peppers and a few hundred lbs of garlic and donated all of it. This year is scaled up even further and I plan to have 1/2 acre of garlic densely planted this fall.  I've purchased a 5 row garlic planter from europe, I plan to develop some sort of notill/lowtill weed free method of planting garlic every year. Right now the plan is to plant 1/2 acre of Oats, i'll run the planter through the tall oats planting the garlic than i'll chop and drop the oats with a sicklebar mower (just a sythe for this year, ill probably buy the mower next year if I like this method). I'll than rake the long oats on top of the garlic beds as best as I can. Eventually I will have a compost spreader that I can drop a layer of 1"-3" thick well composted leaf and manure compost on top of this as nutrients and further weed supression.

My question is, when does the oats become viable seed? I will need to chop the oats before this happens so i dont get a large crop of oats comming up as well.

Thanks for the input
 
gardener
Posts: 1806
Location: Zone 6b
1126
forest garden fungi books chicken fiber arts ungarbage
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The website Sustainable Market Farming has many articles on cover crops Here is a recent one.

The choice will depend on your location. Of the several cereal cover crops, oat is less cold hardy and will be winter killed in zone 7. The timing for planting and terminating are important too. Related topics are all covered in details in those articles.
 
steward
Posts: 16058
Location: USDA Zone 8a
4272
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I have always tried to cut my weeds before they developed a seedhead.

Do you want to leave the oats long enough to harvest the oats?
 
master gardener
Posts: 4249
Location: Upstate NY, Zone 5, 43 inch Avg. Rainfall
1721
monies home care dog fungi trees chicken food preservation cooking building composting homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I think you would be set to cut if the oats reached the 'milky' stage. This is when you squeeze the grain and it bursts with a milky substance. You might decide to chop right before this if you want to be double safe which is fine as well.
 
If you’re going through hell, keep going. - Winston Churchill / tiny ad
A rocket mass heater heats your home with one tenth the wood of a conventional wood stove
http://woodheat.net
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic