• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Carla Burke
  • Nancy Reading
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • Timothy Norton
  • paul wheaton
  • Jay Angler
stewards:
  • Pearl Sutton
  • Anne Miller
  • Tereza Okava
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
gardeners:
  • M Ljin
  • Matt McSpadden
  • Megan Palmer

smaller government?

 
Posts: 9747
Location: Ozarks zone 7 alluvial, clay/loam with few rocks 50" yearly rain
2918
4
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Is this what they meant?



 
master gardener
Posts: 5081
Location: Carlton County, Minnesota, USA: 3b; Dfb; sandy loam; in the woods
2759
7
forest garden trees books chicken food preservation cooking fiber arts seed woodworking homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I wonder what they're doing with all those windows...
 
Judith Browning
Posts: 9747
Location: Ozarks zone 7 alluvial, clay/loam with few rocks 50" yearly rain
2918
4
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I don't think anything is being salvaged, just destroyed.
Quite symbolic from my point of view.
 
Judith Browning
Posts: 9747
Location: Ozarks zone 7 alluvial, clay/loam with few rocks 50" yearly rain
2918
4
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
inside...
 
Judith Browning
Posts: 9747
Location: Ozarks zone 7 alluvial, clay/loam with few rocks 50" yearly rain
2918
4
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
some history...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Wing
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/photos-white-house-starts-east-wing-demolition-to-build-trumps-ballroom
 
Judith Browning
Posts: 9747
Location: Ozarks zone 7 alluvial, clay/loam with few rocks 50" yearly rain
2918
4
  • Likes 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Christopher Weeks wrote:I wonder what they're doing with all those windows...


My cousin ran a salvage business for years...beautiful things carefully removed and stored. Folks bought flooring, windows etc...all kinds of reuse materials....and stained glass, sometimes furniture, weather vanes...a really lucrative business.
 
steward and tree herder
Posts: 11268
Location: Isle of Skye, Scotland. Nearly 70 inches rain a year
5464
5
transportation dog forest garden foraging trees books food preservation woodworking wood heat rocket stoves ungarbage
  • Likes 9
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Somebody missed a lucrative opportunity apart from anything else - windows reclaimed from the White House would be worth 10x any other reclaimed window, let alone the other fittings.
 
master pollinator
Posts: 576
Location: Zone 8A
110
homeschooling kids rabbit tiny house books chicken composting toilet medical herbs composting homestead
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Christopher Weeks wrote:I wonder what they're doing with all those windows...



Commercial projects across the US typically consists of 2 sets of documents. The construction drawings and the project manual. Both of these are subject to modifications as the projects bids and gets underway. These modifications are called addendums. For a reference, a typical new construction school will have 300 ish pages of drawings and 600 ish pages of project manual.

The construction drawings consist of all the plans including site work, demo, structural, architectural, mechanical, electrical, etc. The project manual is broken into sections. One section is the "Demo section".

In the demo section, it'll specify if the demolished material becomes property of the demo contractor. If it does become the contractor's property, materials may be salvaged and resold or reused. If the material remains the owners property, you break the contract if anything is salvaged. Breaking a contact can result in a business ending lawsuit.

I would bet that the government retained ownership of the demolished materials and they must be disposed of in a manner that would not make them salvageable.

Also, there are not many contractors willing to go to the trouble of salvaging materials for resale due to the labor cost and logistics of reselling on these large commercial projects. Typically, the lowest bidder is selected.
 
Judith Browning
Posts: 9747
Location: Ozarks zone 7 alluvial, clay/loam with few rocks 50" yearly rain
2918
4
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
"This isn’t his house. It’s our house—just as our money isn’t his money, and our army isn’t his army. He is just another citizen. He is not a king. This is not a palace to be remade or destroyed on his whims."

Elliot Kirschner
Filmmaker, writer, and optimist.



 
Christopher Weeks
master gardener
Posts: 5081
Location: Carlton County, Minnesota, USA: 3b; Dfb; sandy loam; in the woods
2759
7
forest garden trees books chicken food preservation cooking fiber arts seed woodworking homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Jackson Magnolia wrote:I would bet that the government retained ownership of the demolished materials and they must be disposed of in a manner that would not make them salvageable.


Bummer for the lost history and opportunity, if true.

Also, there are not many contractors willing to go to the trouble of salvaging materials for resale due to the labor cost and logistics of reselling on these large commercial projects. Typically, the lowest bidder is selected.


I'm sure that's quite sensible for normal random materials but it seems like there could be a business marketing these particular materials.
 
snakes are really good at eating slugs. And you wouldn't think it, but so are tiny ads:
The new gardening playing cards kickstarter is now live!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-cards
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic